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Date:	Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:39:40 +0100
From:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Balazs Scheidler <bazsi@...abit.hu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Subject: Re: scheduler oddity [bug?]

On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 18:52 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Mike Galbraith <efault@....de> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2009-03-08 at 16:39 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > * Mike Galbraith <efault@....de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > The problem with your particular testcase is that while one 
> > > > half has an avg_overlap (what we use as affinity hint for 
> > > > synchronous wakeups) which triggers the affinity hint, the 
> > > > other half has avg_overlap of zero, what it was born with, so 
> > > > despite significant execution overlap, the scheduler treats 
> > > > them as if they were truly synchronous tasks.
> > > 
> > > hm, why does it stay on zero?
> > 
> > Wakeup preemption.  Presuming here: heavy task wakes light 
> > task, is preempted, light task stuffs data into pipe, heavy 
> > task doesn't block, so no avg_overlap is ever computed.  The 
> > heavy task uses 100% CPU.
> > 
> > Running as SCHED_BATCH (virgin source), it becomes sane.
> 
> ah.
> 
> I'd argue then that time spent on the rq preempted _should_ 
> count in avg_overlap statistics. I.e. couldnt we do something 
> like ... your patch? :)
> 
> > >     if (sleep && p->se.last_wakeup) {
> > >             update_avg(&p->se.avg_overlap,
> > >                        p->se.sum_exec_runtime - p->se.last_wakeup);
> > >             p->se.last_wakeup = 0;
> > > -   }
> > > +   } else if (p->se.avg_overlap < limit && runtime >= limit)
> > > +           update_avg(&p->se.avg_overlap, runtime);
> 
> Just done unconditionally, i.e. something like:
> 
> 	if (sleep) {
> 		runtime = p->se.sum_exec_runtime - p->se.last_wakeup;
> 		p->se.last_wakeup = 0;
> 	} else {
> 		runtime = p->se.sum_exec_runtime - p->se.prev_sum_exec_runtime;
> 	}
> 
> 	update_avg(&p->se.avg_overlap, runtime);
> 
> ?

That'll do it for this load.  I'll resume in the a.m., give that some
testing, and try to remember all the things I was paranoid about.
(getting interrupted a _lot_.. i give up on today;)

	-Mike

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