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Date:	Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:02:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>
cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, utrace-devel@...hat.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] utrace-based ftrace "process" engine, v2



On Sat, 21 Mar 2009, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> 
> > If testing utrace against its main application requires installation
> > of a complete enterprise distro from a distro [...]
> 
> This has *never* been a requirement.

You guys are getting off a tangent.

Let's go back to the post that started this all.

> The thing is, utrace crashes in Fedora have dominated kerneloops.org 
> for many months, so i'm not sure what to make of the idea of posting 
> a 4000+ lines of core kernel code patchset on the last day of the 
> development cycle, a posting that has carefully avoided the Cc:-ing 
> of affected maintainers ;-)

.. and dammit, I agree 100%. If utrace really shows up in _any_ way on 
kerneloops.org, then I think THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION in this thread is moot. 

I'm not going to take known-bad crap. It's that simple. Don't bother 
posting it, don't bother discussing it, don't bother making excuses for 
it.

			Linus
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