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Date:	Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:16:37 -0700
From:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
To:	paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc:	Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>, dipankar@...ibm.com,
	linux-input@...r.kernel.org, dmitry.torokhov@...il.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Question about usage of RCU in the input layer

On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:03:31 -0700
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 03:44:33PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:52:12 -0700
> > "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 12:46:32PM -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 09:53:24 -0700
> > > > "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > > > How many synchronize_rcu() calls are you seeing on the
> > > > > > > boot path?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I see 20 that hit the above code path (eg ones that wait)
> > > > > > until userspace starts.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So with well-behaved readers, the full sequence would be worth
> > > > > something like 50-60 milliseconds.
> > > > 
> > > > yeah it's about 10% if the total kernel boot time.. so it does
> > > > start to matter
> > > 
> > > Half-second boot, eh?  That would indeed be impressive.
> > 
> > half a second until calling init.. that's what I have today (with
> > all drivers built in).. nothing really special needed for it
> > (well a few small patches that are pending for 2.6.30 ;-)
> 
> I thought the measurement was until the desktop was running with no
> more disk activity.  ;-)

yeah that's like 2 seconds after that ;)

> 
> But in any case, I will see what I can do about speeding up
> synchronize_rcu().  I will likely start with TREE_RCU, and I may need
> some sort of indication that boot is in progress.

system_state == SYSTEM_BOOTING is not a very elegant test but it works



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