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Date:	Sat, 4 Apr 2009 10:23:02 -0700
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
Cc:	Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, netfilter@...r.kernel.org,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@...sh.net>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>, coreteam@...filter.org
Subject: Re: [netfilter bug] BUG: using smp_processor_id() in preemptible
	[00000000] code: ssh/9115, caller is ipt_do_table+0xc8/0x559

On Thu, Apr 02, 2009 at 11:16:06PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu> wrote:
> > * Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com> wrote:
> > > David put into its tree fix for that a few hours ago
> > > 
> > > commit fa9a86ddc8ecd2830a5e773facc250f110300ae7
> > > 
> > > (netfilter: iptables: lock free counters) forgot to disable BH
> > > in arpt_do_table(), ipt_do_table() and  ip6t_do_table()
> > > 
> > > Use rcu_read_lock_bh() instead of rcu_read_lock() cures the problem.
> > 
> > ok, got your fix (attached below), thanks Eric for the pointer.
> > 
> > But i think my fix might be slightly better, because it does not 
> > manipulate the preempt counter and leaves preemption enabled.
> > 
> > There's no BH context worries since this code did not seem to have 
> > BH protection before either. (it used a plain read_lock(), not 
> > read_lock_bh(), AFAICS)
> > 
> > I dont see any preemption worries either. I must be missing 
> > something :)
> 
> as per the other mail - what i missed was that the old code _did_ 
> use read_lock_bh(), which did not get carried over into the 
> rcu_read_lock().
> 
> So this fix affects basically all things netfilter, not just 
> rcu-preempt - a plain rcu_read_lock() doesnt protect against BH 
> context interaction.

Strangely enough, the original motivation for rcu_read_lock_bh() does not
apply to -rt kernels.  The problem was that denial-of-service workloads
could apply such a heavy interrupt load to a given CPU that it never
got back to process-level execution, thus never passing through any
quiescent states.

So rcu-bh has softirq-level quiescent states, solving that problem,
but by disabling softirq (and thus preemption) across the read-side
critical sections.

But -rt has every point in the code not covered by rcu_read_lock()
as a quiescent state, so should not be vulnerable to that particular
denial-of-service attack.  But rcu-bh has the additional semantic of
excluding BH execution while under rcu_read_lock_bh(), which appears
to be used in this case, and probably others as well.

Interesting corner we have painted ourselves into here...

							Thanx, Paul
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