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Date:	Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:49:54 -0400
From:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
To:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, davem@...emloft.net, kaber@...sh.net,
	torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, shemminger@...tta.com,
	dada1@...mosbay.com, jeff.chua.linux@...il.com, paulus@...ba.org,
	mingo@...e.hu, laijs@...fujitsu.com, jengelh@...ozas.de,
	r000n@...0n.net, benh@...nel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] v3 RCU implementation with fast grace periods

* Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 05:11:58PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > * Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:10:35AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> > > > * Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> > > 
> > > [ . . . ]
> > > 
> > > > > +void synchronize_rcu_fgp(void)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	mutex_lock(&rcu_fgp_mutex);
> > > > > +	
> > > > > +	/* CPUs must see earlier change before parity flip. */
> > > > > +	smp_call_function(rcu_fgp_do_mb, NULL, 1);
> > > > > +
> > > > 
> > > > Hrm, my original comment about missing smp_mb() here still applies, I
> > > > don't think we have come to an agreement yet.
> > > 
> > > My argument is that smp_call_function() must necessarily contain a
> > > full memory barrier, otherwise it cannot function properly.  ;-)
> > > 
> > 
> > Looking at :
> > 
> > kernel/smp.c
> > 
> > smp_call_function_many() indeed has a smp_mb(). It is called by
> > smp_call_function(). I wonder if it could eventually be turned into a
> > smp_wmb() instead ? If this is even a remote possibility, then the fact
> > that
> > 
> > - The rcu_fgp code does not document that it expects smp_call_function()
> >   to have a smp_mb().
> > - The fact that smp_call_function_many() comments do not state that this
> >   function provides the guarantee to run a smp_mb().
> > 
> > are both asking for an eventual bug to creep into the kernel.
> 
> Many bugs -- I believe that a number of users of smp_call_function()
> assume that it maintains ordering between the calling code and all
> invocations of the function passed to smp_call_function().
> 
> > So your assumption seems OK, but I think it needs to be explicitly
> > documented.
> 
> That might well be a good thing.
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul

And while we are at it : you should probably add lockdep annotation to
this new lock.

I never thought I would say this, but following the discussion going on
about netfilter locking, I am starting to think that the RCU approach
might be more simple and elegant that the nestable per-cpu rwlock
approches proposed so far. ;)

Plus, there is much fewer name calling involved in the making. :)

Cheers,

Mathieu

> 
> > Mathieu
> > 
> > > > > +	/*
> > > > > +	 * We must flip twice to correctly handle tasks that stall
> > > > > +	 * in rcu_read_lock_fgp() between the time that they fetch
> > > > > +	 * rcu_fgp_ctr and the time that the store to their CPU's
> > > > > +	 * rcu_fgp_active_readers.  No matter when they resume
> > > > > +	 * execution, we will wait for them to get to the corresponding
> > > > > +	 * rcu_read_unlock_fgp().
> > > > > +	 */
> > > > > +	ACCESS_ONCE(rcu_fgp_ctr) ^= RCU_FGP_PARITY;  /* flip parity 0 -> 1 */
> > > > > +	rcu_fgp_wait_for_quiescent_state();	     /* wait for old readers */
> > > > > +	ACCESS_ONCE(rcu_fgp_ctr) ^= RCU_FGP_PARITY;  /* flip parity 1 -> 0 */
> > > > > +	rcu_fgp_wait_for_quiescent_state();	     /* wait for old readers */
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	/* Prevent CPUs from reordering out of prior RCU critical sections. */
> > > > > +	smp_call_function(rcu_fgp_do_mb, NULL, 1);
> > > > > +
> > > > 
> > > > Same here.
> > > > 
> > > > So we would need to either add a smp_mb() at both of these locations, or
> > > > use on_each_cpu() rather than smp_call_function. Note that this is to
> > > > ensure that the "updater" thread executes these memory barriers.
> > > 
> > > Or rely on the barriers that must be part of smp_call_function.  ;-)
> > > 
> > > 						Thanx, Paul
> > > 
> > > > Mathieu
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > +	rcu_fgp_completed++;
> > > > > +	mutex_unlock(&rcu_fgp_mutex);
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(synchronize_rcu_fgp);
> > > > > +
> > > > > +/**
> > > > > + * rcu_fgp_batches_completed - return batches completed.
> > > > > + * @sp: srcu_struct on which to report batch completion.
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * Report the number of batches, correlated with, but not necessarily
> > > > > + * precisely the same as, the number of grace periods that have elapsed.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > +long rcu_fgp_batches_completed(void)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	return rcu_fgp_completed;
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(rcu_fgp_batches_completed);
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Mathieu Desnoyers
> > > > OpenPGP key fingerprint: 8CD5 52C3 8E3C 4140 715F  BA06 3F25 A8FE 3BAE 9A68
> > 
> > -- 
> > Mathieu Desnoyers
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