linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH -mm] vmscan: make mapped executable pages the first class citizen

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Date:	Fri, 8 May 2009 15:53:49 -0700
From:	Elladan <elladan@...imo.com>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>, fengguang.wu@...el.com,
	hannes@...xchg.org, peterz@...radead.org, riel@...hat.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, tytso@....edu, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	elladan@...imo.com, npiggin@...e.de, cl@...ux-foundation.org,
	kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com, minchan.kim@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH -mm] vmscan: make mapped executable pages the first
	class citizen

On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:15:32PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 8 May 2009 23:00:45 +0100
> Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > > The patch seems reasonable but the changelog and the (non-existent)
> > > design documentation could do with a touch-up.
> > 
> > Is it right that I as a user can do things like mmap my database
> > PROT_EXEC to get better database numbers by making other
> > stuff swap first ?
> >
> > You seem to be giving everyone a "nice my process up" hack.
> 
> Yep.
> 
> But prior to 2.6.27(?) the same effect could be had by mmap()ing the
> file with or without PROT_EXEC.  The patch restores a
> probably-beneficial heuristic which got lost in the LRU rewrite.
> 
> So we're no worse than pre-2.6.27 kernels here.  Plus there are
> probably more effective ways of getting that sort of boost, such as
> having a process running which simply touches your favoured pages
> at a suitable (and fairly low) frequency.

An example of a process which does this automatically is the Java virtual
machine (and probably other runtimes which use a mark and sweep type GC).

You can see this in practice pretty easily -- a jvm process will automatically
keep its memory paged in, even under strong VM pressure.

-E
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