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Date:	Sat, 9 May 2009 19:00:47 +0200
From:	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>
To:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Pantelis Koukousoulas <pktoss@...il.com>,
	USB list <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: usbfs, claiming entire usb devices

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 16:06, Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu> wrote:
> On Fri, 8 May 2009, Kay Sievers wrote:
>
>> You mentioned earlier, that you would need to match the holder of the
>> "lock" and the one that accesses the device?
>
> Yes.  That is, a process shouldn't be allowed to access a locked device
> unless that process is the lock holder.

You think the pid or the uid would make more sense?

>> Wouldn't it be sufficient already, if you can take a "lock" at the
>> specific port, that prevents the kernel to access the device when it
>> shows up?
>
> I don't know how the people requesting this feature would feel about
> that.  They seem to want to lock out other processes as well as locking
> out the kernel.

Might be useful, yeah. I could think of use cases where a specific uid
wants to lock a device, by holding the lock file open, and only the
same uid (could be a different pid) can claim the device from
userspace.

>> You thought of supporting a number of different users, with different
>> uids, or would that be a root-only action?
>
> A typical use case would be somebody running an emulator like QEMU.  In
> theory there could be multiple QEMU processes running concurrently,
> each owning a different set of ports.  The uids might be different or
> they might all be the same.
>
> Setting the lock permissions would be up to userspace.

Yeah, sounds fine.

Kay
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