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Date:	Wed,  3 Jun 2009 00:09:39 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Roland McGrath <roland@...hat.com>
To:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
Cc:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>, paul@...-scientist.net,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, stable@...nel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] coredump: Retry writes where appropriate

> Oh, I forgot about freezer...

We all would like to.

> Well, not good to complicate recalc_sigpending_tsk() for this unlikely case.
> And this can't help, freezer does signal_wake_up() unconditionally.
> 
> So in fact this is another argument to check signal_pending() and clear it
> in dump_write/seek.

I can't agree with this at all.  IMHO it's far better to have a consistent
definition of when TIF_SIGPENDING ought to be triggered, and have
recalc_sigpending_tsk() use logic that matches the logic controlling when
to set TIF_SIGPENDING asynchronously (i.e. signal_wake_up calls).

> But since the coredumping task is not freezable anyway, perhaps we should
> change fake_signal_wake_up() to ignore SIGNAL_GROUP_DUMPING task.

That could be a long delay and a lot of i/o before suspending.

> Or we should make the coredumping freezable. This means dump_write/seek
> and exit_mm() should do try_to_freeze().

Yes, I think this is the thing to do for that issue.
(It's kind of a separate problem.)

> In any case, the coredumping is special. If ->write() returns -ERESTART/EINTR
> it assumes the return to ths user-space, this is not true for the coredump.
> This means that handling the spurious signals in coredump_file_write() is
> not so bad if we can't avoid this.

I am not so confident.  It seems far too easy to wind up with some other
way that TIF_SIGPENDING gets continually set and this loops, for example.
(This could be some day in the future when fs, driver or pipe-io code
changes somehow completely obscure.)  It's far better to have confidence
just in the signals code itself: the only things that set TIF_SIGPENDING
interlock with the logic of the only things that are expected to clear it.


Thanks,
Roland
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