Date:	Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:21:22 -0600
From:	Bruce Guenter <bruce@...roubled.org>
To:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Probablem with dropping caches

Hello.

I am having a problem with a system that appears to be spontaneously
dropping large parts of its caches.  The work load on this system is
primarily I/O bound (it's a mailbox server), and as such the loss of
cache memory is causing severe performance degradation.

For example, here is some output from vmstat 1:

procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa
 1  1      0  87164 683212 1069748    0    0   544   164  856  730  3  2 91  4
 0  1      0  81124 689100 1069508    0    0  5880   104 1070  834  2  1 74 23
 0  1      0  89956 691588 1057408    0    0  5288     0 1163  915  0  2 72 25
 0  1      0 138020 690652 1012444    0    0  5724     0 1136  831  2  0 75 23
 0  0      0 243384 690460 906500    0    0  4716     0 1282  844  0  2 61 36
 0  1      0 294704 690152 854232    0    0  1108   428 1123 1093  2  2 81 15
 0  0      0 285984 690380 854504    0    0   252     0  721  671  3  1 92  3
 0  1      0 426844 690780 722408    0    0  3096  1748 1197  846  1  2 84 13
 0  1      0 579684 691232 568344    0    0  4228   156 1300 1083  2  2 69 27
 1  1      0 676312 691832 467244    0    0  5256     0 1072  741  0  2 75 23

As far as I can tell from df and similar reporting, there are not
hundreds of MB of files being deleted, which would have similar
behavior.  It is not swapping, nor is memory actually leaking (since
free memory + cache is nearly constant).  All of the active programs run
with small memory ulimits and as such are not consuming and then
releasing hundreds of MB of memory.

There are also intervals where the system is reading several MB per
second but the caches do not grow significantly:

procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu----
 r  b   swpd   free   buff  cache   si   so    bi    bo   in   cs us sy id wa
 0 35      0 960396 749544  62416    0    0  7396     0 1424 1154  2  2  0 96
 1 34      0 963868 750536  62252    0    0  8596   208 1695 1463  4  3  0 93
 0 38      0 967452 752800  62980    0    0  7176    20 1378  972  4  1  0 95
 0 38      0 968100 751308  61400    0    0  7260   180 1423 1109  3  2  0 95
 2 42      0 966252 751540  61872    0    0  8196     0 1404 1328  1  1  0 97
 0 43      0 955440 751956  60520    0    0  8692     0 1846 1925  5  3  0 92
 2 49      0 943644 752836  61412    0    0  9324   200 1783 1582  5  3  0 92
 1 39      0 959368 751892  62104    0    0  7836    64 1874 1855  9  5  0 86

This system has 2GB RAM and 4 72GB drives in a 3Ware RAID10 array.  The
active filesystem is ext4 with the following mount options:

	noatime,nodiratime,data=journal

The data=journal option comes from benchmarking I did a while back that
indicated it was best for sync+unlink heavy work loads such as this one
has.  I have remounted with data=ordered but that did not solve the
problem.

The kernel (as of now) is 2.6.29.4 compiled with gcc 3.4.6 on Gentoo.

I also have another system, which is similarly configured but is using
the ext3 filesystem.  It does not exhibit this behavior which leads me
to suspect some difference between ext3 and ext4 is causing the problem.
I however have no other evidence to point a finger at ext4, and am at a
loss as to what else to investigate.

Has anybody else seen this behavior before?  What other details can I
investigate to figure out what is causing this problem?  What other information
would be useful to diagnose this?

Thank you.

-- 
Bruce Guenter <bruce@...roubled.org>                http://untroubled.org/

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