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Date:	Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:21:34 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@...il.com>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] scripts/checksyscalls.sh: only whine perf_counter_open
	when supported


* Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@...il.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 08:05, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Mike Frysinger <vapier@...too.org> wrote:
> >> If the port does not support HAVE_PERF_COUNTERS, then they can't
> >> support the perf_counter_open syscall either.  Rather than forcing
> >> everyone to add an ignore (or suffer the warning until they get
> >> around to implementing support), only whine about the syscall when
> >> applicable.
> >
> > No, this patch is wrong - it's really easy to add support: just hook
> > up the syscall. This should happen for every architecture really, so
> > the warning is correct and it should not be patched out.
> >
> > PMU support is not required to get perfcounters support: if an
> > architecture hooks up the syscall it will get generic software
> > counters and the tools will work as well.
> >
> > Profiling falls back to a hrtimer-based sampling method - this is a
> > much better fallback than oprofile's fall-back to the timer tick.
> > This hrtimer based sampling is dynticks/nohz-correct and can go
> > beyond HZ if the architecture supports hrtimers.
> 
> these statements are actually incorrect.  the perf counter code
> explicitly requires:
>  - asm/perf_counter.h

An empty stub suffices.

>  - support for atomic64 types (unless i missed something, x86 is the
> only 32bit system that supports these)

A wrapper suffices - should probably be librarized into lib/.

>  - some perf stubs (like set_perf_counter_pending() -- prototype
> really should be in common perf_counters headers rather than forcing
> the arch to copy & paste the exact same line)

Agreed.

> not that any of this is documented ...

Patches are welcome :-)

You are right that the requirements are not necessarily trivial for 
every arch - so i guess our original patch is correct.

Acked-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>

	Ingo
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