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Date:	Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:07:00 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>, svaidy@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Gautham R Shenoy <ego@...ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Balbir Singh <balbir@...ibm.com>,
	Rusty Russel <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Nathan Lynch <ntl@...ox.com>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@...el.com>,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@...ibm.com>,
	Shoahua Li <shaohua.li@...ux.com>
Subject: Re: [RFD PATCH 0/4] cpu: Bulk CPU Hotplug support.


* Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 09:32:57AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 13:37 +0530, Vaidyanathan Srinivasan wrote:
> > > * Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> [2009-06-15 23:23:18]:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:08:39 +0530 Gautham R Shenoy <ego@...ibm.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Currently on a ppc64 box with 16 CPUs, the time taken for
> > > > > a individual cpu-hotplug operation is as follows.
> > > > > 
> > > > >     # time echo 0 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/online
> > > > >     real    0m0.025s
> > > > >     user    0m0.000s
> > > > >     sys     0m0.002s
> > > > > 
> > > > >     # time echo 1 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu2/online
> > > > >     real    0m0.021s
> > > > >     user    0m0.000s
> > > > >     sys     0m0.000s
> > > > 
> > > > Surprised.  Do people really online and offline CPUs frequently enough
> > > > for this to be a problem?
> > > 
> > > Certainly not for hardware faults or hardware replacement, but
> > > cpu-hotplug interface is useful for changing system configuration to
> > > meet different objectives like
> > > 
> > > * Reduce system capacity to reduce average power and reduce heat
> > > 
> > > * Increasing number of cores and threads in a CPU package is leading
> > >   to multiple cpu offline/online operations for any perceivable effect
> > > 
> > > * Dynamically change CPU configurations in virtualized environments
> > 
> > I tend to agree with Andrew, if any of those things are done 
> > frequent enough that the hotplug performance matter you're doing 
> > something mighty odd.
> 
> Boot speedup?

Also, if it brings more attention (and more stability and more 
bugfixes) to CPU hotplug that's only good.

	Ingo
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