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Date:	Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:54:34 +0800
From:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
To:	Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@...b.net>
Cc:	Ronald Moesbergen <intercommit@...il.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com" <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	"Alan.Brunelle@...com" <Alan.Brunelle@...com>,
	"hifumi.hisashi@....ntt.co.jp" <hifumi.hisashi@....ntt.co.jp>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"jens.axboe@...cle.com" <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	"randy.dunlap@...cle.com" <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>,
	Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [RESEND] [PATCH] readahead:add blk_run_backing_dev

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 06:55:40PM +0800, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> Ronald Moesbergen, on 06/29/2009 02:26 PM wrote:
> > 2009/6/29 Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>:
> >> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 08:29:31PM +0800, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> >>> Wu Fengguang, on 06/20/2009 07:55 AM wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 03:04:36AM +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> >>>>> On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 06:45:38 +0800
> >>>>> Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Do you have a place where the raw blktrace data can be retrieved for
> >>>>>>>> more in-depth analysis?
> >>>>>>> I think your comment is really adequate. In another thread, Wu Fengguang pointed
> >>>>>>> out the same issue.
> >>>>>>> I and Wu also wait his analysis.
> >>>>>> And do it with a large readahead size :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Alan, this was my analysis:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> : Hifumi, can you help retest with some large readahead size?
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>> : Your readahead size (128K) is smaller than your max_sectors_kb (256K),
> >>>>>> : so two readahead IO requests get merged into one real IO, that means
> >>>>>> : half of the readahead requests are delayed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ie. two readahead requests get merged and complete together, thus the effective
> >>>>>> IO size is doubled but at the same time it becomes completely synchronous IO.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>> : The IO completion size goes down from 512 to 256 sectors:
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>> : before patch:
> >>>>>> :   8,0    3   177955    50.050313976     0  C   R 8724991 + 512 [0]
> >>>>>> :   8,0    3   177966    50.053380250     0  C   R 8725503 + 512 [0]
> >>>>>> :   8,0    3   177977    50.056970395     0  C   R 8726015 + 512 [0]
> >>>>>> :   8,0    3   177988    50.060326743     0  C   R 8726527 + 512 [0]
> >>>>>> :   8,0    3   177999    50.063922341     0  C   R 8727039 + 512 [0]
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>> : after patch:
> >>>>>> :   8,0    3   257297    50.000760847     0  C   R 9480703 + 256 [0]
> >>>>>> :   8,0    3   257306    50.003034240     0  C   R 9480959 + 256 [0]
> >>>>>> :   8,0    3   257307    50.003076338     0  C   R 9481215 + 256 [0]
> >>>>>> :   8,0    3   257323    50.004774693     0  C   R 9481471 + 256 [0]
> >>>>>> :   8,0    3   257332    50.006865854     0  C   R 9481727 + 256 [0]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> I haven't sent readahead-add-blk_run_backing_dev.patch in to Linus yet
> >>>>> and it's looking like 2.6.32 material, if ever.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If it turns out to be wonderful, we could always ask the -stable
> >>>>> maintainers to put it in 2.6.x.y I guess.
> >>>> Agreed. The expected (and interesting) test on a properly configured
> >>>> HW RAID has not happened yet, hence the theory remains unsupported.
> >>> Hmm, do you see anything improper in the Ronald's setup (see
> >>> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=a0272b440906030714g67eabc5k8f847fb1e538cc62%40mail.gmail.com&forum_name=scst-devel)?
> >>> It is HW RAID based.
> >> No. Ronald's HW RAID performance is reasonably good.  I meant Hifumi's
> >> RAID performance is too bad and may be improved by increasing the
> >> readahead size, hehe.
> >>
> >>> As I already wrote, we can ask Ronald to perform any needed tests.
> >> Thanks!  Ronald's test results are:
> >>
> >> 231   MB/s   HW RAID
> >>  69.6 MB/s   HW RAID + SCST
> >>  89.7 MB/s   HW RAID + SCST + this patch
> >>
> >> So this patch seem to help SCST, but again it would be better to
> >> improve the SCST throughput first - it is now quite sub-optimal.
> >> (Sorry for the long delay: currently I have not got an idea on
> >>  how to measure such timing issues.)
> >>
> >> And if Ronald could provide the HW RAID performance with this patch,
> >> then we can confirm if this patch really makes a difference for RAID.
> > 
> > I just tested raw HW RAID throughput with the patch applied, same
> > readahead setting (512KB), and it doesn't look promising:
> > 
> > ./blockdev-perftest -d -r /dev/cciss/c0d0
> > blocksize        W        W        W        R        R        R
> >  67108864       -1       -1       -1  5.59686   5.4098  5.45396
> >  33554432       -1       -1       -1  6.18616  6.13232  5.96124
> >  16777216       -1       -1       -1   7.6757  7.32139   7.4966
> >   8388608       -1       -1       -1  8.82793  9.02057  9.01055
> >   4194304       -1       -1       -1  12.2289  12.6804    12.19
> >   2097152       -1       -1       -1  13.3012   13.706  14.7542
> >   1048576       -1       -1       -1  11.7577  12.3609  11.9507
> >    524288       -1       -1       -1  12.4112  12.2383  11.9105
> >    262144       -1       -1       -1  7.30687   7.4417  7.38246
> >    131072       -1       -1       -1  7.95752  7.95053  8.60796
> >     65536       -1       -1       -1  10.1282  10.1286  10.1956
> >     32768       -1       -1       -1  9.91857  9.98597  10.8421
> >     16384       -1       -1       -1  10.8267  10.8899  10.8718
> >      8192       -1       -1       -1  12.0345  12.5275   12.005
> >      4096       -1       -1       -1  15.1537  15.0771  15.1753
> >      2048       -1       -1       -1   25.432  24.8985  25.4303
> >      1024       -1       -1       -1  45.2674  45.2707  45.3504
> >       512       -1       -1       -1  87.9405  88.5047  87.4726
> > 
> > It dropped down to 189 MB/s. :(
> 
> Ronald,
> 
> Can you, please, rerun this test locally on the target with the latest 
> version of blockdev-perftest, which produces much more readable results, 

Is blockdev-perftest public available? It's not obvious from google search.

> for the following 6 cases:
> 
> 1. Default vanilla 2.6.29 kernel, default parameters, including read-ahead

Why not 2.6.30? :)

> 2. Default vanilla 2.6.29 kernel, 512 KB read-ahead, the rest is default

How about 2MB RAID readahead size? That transforms into about 512KB
per-disk readahead size.

> 3. Default vanilla 2.6.29 kernel, 512 KB read-ahead, 64 KB 
> max_sectors_kb, the rest is default
> 
> 4. Patched by the Fengguang's patch http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/5/21/319 
> vanilla 2.6.29 kernel, default parameters, including read-ahead
> 
> 5. Patched by the Fengguang's patch vanilla 2.6.29 kernel, 512 KB 
> read-ahead, the rest is default
> 
> 6. Patched by the Fengguang's patch vanilla 2.6.29 kernel, 512 KB 
> read-ahead, 64 KB max_sectors_kb, the rest is default

Thanks,
Fengguang

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