lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:45:47 +0900 (JST)
From:	mitake@....info.waseda.ac.jp
To:	andi@...stfloor.org
Cc:	a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl, fweisbec@...il.com, mingo@...e.hu,
	acme@...hat.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired
 how many spinlocks to schedstat

From: Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Adding information of counts processes acquired how many spinlocks to schedstat
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 13:54:51 +0200

Thank you for your replying, Peter and Andi.

> > Maybe re-use the LOCK_CONTENDED macros for this, but I'm not sure we
> > want to go there and put code like this on the lock hot-paths for !debug
> > kernels.
> 
> My concern was similar.
> 
> I suspect it would be in theory ok for the slow spinning path, but I am 
> somewhat concerned about the additional cache miss for checking
> the global flag even in this case. This could hurt when
> the kernel is running fully cache hold, in that the cache miss
> might be far more expensive that  short spin.

Yes, there will be overhead. This is certain.
But there's the radical way to ignore this,
adding subcategory to Kconfig for measuring spinlocks and #ifdef to spinlock.c.
So people who wants to avoid this overhead can disable measurement of spinlocks completely.

And there's another way to avoid the overhead of measurement.
Making _spin_lock variable of function pointer.
When you don't want to measure spinlocks,
assign _spin_lock_raw() which is equals to current _spin_lock().
When you want to measure spinlocks,
assign _spin_lock_perf() which locks and measures.
This way will banish the cache miss problem you said.
I think this may be useful for avoiding problem of recursion.

> 
> Needs immediate value patching or just use a jumper kprobe when it's
> really needed? I think I would prefer the later variant.

What does "immediate value patching" mean?
I've never heard about this, so Googled but cannot find anything maybe you said.
Could you teach me about this?

But there's also spinlock recursion problem.. > kprobe
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ