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Date:	Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
From:	david@...g.hm
To:	OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@...l.parknet.co.jp>
cc:	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Daniel Phillips <phillips@...nq.net>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@...ox.com>,
	debian developer <debiandev@...il.com>, tux3@...3.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, corbet@....net
Subject: Re: [Tux3] Current Activities?

On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, OGAWA Hirofumi wrote:

> Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu> writes:
>
>> If the goal is to find corporate sponsorship for Tux3, I'd strongly
>> encourage you to think harder about a compelling story for why Tux3 is
>> so cool that companies should spend money supporting it.  Let me
>> gently suggest to you that "it'll have fewer features than btrfs, but
>> it will use less memory" is not a particularly compelling story to a
>> company's technical and management leadership who is figure out
>> spending priorities for next year's budget.  Particularly if the cell
>> phone is going to have megabytes of memory to run Java on it anyway;
>> and even if it's not running Java, have you seen how much space
>> graphical libraries take up these days?  :-)
>>
>> Again, I'm not saying this to discourage technical people from working
>> on Tux3.  But just because you're passionate about a technology,
>> doesn't mean that it automatically translate to there being a business
>> case to convince companies to invest in that technology.
>
> About sponsorship, I guess Daniel just worried about me. But, it's not
> argument on lkml. So, let's stop argument about sponsorship.

it's not just sponsership, it's also the question of why should I as 
someone who uses linux in production ever care about Tux3. why would I 
pick it over ext4, btrfs, etc.

David Lang
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