Date:	Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:51:24 +0300
From:	Maxim Levitsky <maximlevitsky@...il.com>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Cc:	Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>,
	linux-pm <linux-pm@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Mairo <rety@...zta.onet.pl>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
	Alexey Starikovskiy <astarikovskiy@...e.de>
Subject: Re: Is acpi_ec_ecdt_probe() broken? (was: Re: ACPI locks hardware
 devices when it doesn't detect vista)

On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 21:40 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Saturday 29 August 2009, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-08-22 at 15:48 +0300, Maxim Levitsky wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > <joke>
> > > This should be brought to a Microsoft antitrust case...
> > > </joke>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Today many notebooks ship with a embedded infrared receiver.
> > > In Vista there is new subsystem that decodes these signals.
> > > (of course it works only with Microsoft Certificated Remotes (TM)...)
> > > 
> > > The receiver is usually presented to system as a pnp device 
> > > (using acpi tables)
> > > 
> > > It turns out that some bioses actually use the OSI, ACPI feature of the
> > > operation system to detect if running inside Vista. If not they disable
> > > the infrared receiver.
> > > 
> > >             Device (MIR)
> > >             {
> > >                 Name (_HID, EisaId ("ENE0100"))
> > >                 Method (_STA, 0, NotSerialized)
> > >                 {
> > >                     If (LAnd (MCIR, LEqual (OSYS, 0x07D6)))
> > >                     {
> > >                         Return (0x0F)
> > >                     }
> > >                     Else
> > >                     {
> > >                         Store (Zero, ^^LPCB.IOR2)
> > >                         Return (Zero)
> > >                     }
> > >                 }
> > > 
> > > 	.......
> > > 
> > 
> > >     Scope (_SB)
> > >     {
> > >         Method (_INI, 0, NotSerialized)
> > >         {
> > 		....
> > 
> > >             If (CondRefOf (_OSI, Local0))
> > >             {
> > >                 If (_OSI ("Linux"))
> > >                 {
> > >                     Store (One, LINX)
> > >                     Store (Zero, ECDY)
> > >                 }
> > 
> >                   ..........
> > > 
> > 
> > >                 If (_OSI ("Windows 2006"))
> > >                 {
> > >                     Store (0x07D6, OSYS)
> > >                 }
> >                   .......
> > 
> > 
> > I have finally managed to find root case of this problem.
> > 
> > Indeed the _STA method of infrared receiver is called before the _INI of
> > _SB.
> 
> This is a bug IMO.  Len, what do you think?
> 
> > The problem lies in acpi_bus_init()
> > 	/*
> > 	 * ACPI 2.0 requires the EC driver to be loaded and work before
> > 	 * the EC device is found in the namespace (i.e. before acpi_initialize_objects()
> > 	 * is called).
> > 	 *
> > 	 * This is accomplished by looking for the ECDT table, and getting
> > 	 * the EC parameters out of that.
> > 	 */
> > 
> > 	status = acpi_ec_ecdt_probe();
> > 	/* Ignore result. Not having an ECDT is not fatal. */
> > 
> > 	status = acpi_initialize_objects(ACPI_FULL_INITIALIZATION);
> > 	if (ACPI_FAILURE(status)) {
> > 		printk(KERN_ERR PREFIX "Unable to initialize ACPI objects\n");
> > 		goto error1;
> > 	}
> >         .......
> > 
> > 
> > on Mairo's system (just as well as on mine) there is no ECDT.
> > Thus, acpi_ec_ecdt_probe() triggers a acpi namespace walk, 
> > which in turn triggers invocation on _STA (which is supposed to be
> > harmless, but the <beep>, the bios developers produce doesn't seem to
> > meet this criteria....).
> > 
> > And this is done before running _INI methods, which are run just later,
> > in acpi_initialize_objects.
> > 
> > I suspect that many systems use _SB._INI to test the OS version, thus
> > this behavior needs to be revised.
> > 
> > The fact that this (as usual) works in windows suggest that it might  be
> > good to look up the ECDT table before acpi_initialize_objects, but if
> > not found, look up the EC later.
> > 
> > On my system, although I have tried to reproduce this bug, I couldn't,
> > and I know now why: It just so happens that on my system CIR device is
> > listed in acpi tables after the EC, but on Mairo's system EC is just
> > first device.
> > 
> > Maybe we can add a 'walk only' function, that walks the namespace, but
> > doesn't touch the _STA, and use it to find the EC there?
> 
> To my eyes, this problem is a result of a workaround in acpi_ec_ecdt_probe(),
> that according to the comment in there "is needed only on some broken machines
> which require early EC, but fail to provide ECDT".
> 
> You probably wrote that in one of the previous messages, but is your machine an
> ASUS one by chance?
> 
> Len, really, the things done by acpi_ec_ecdt_probe() in case ECDT is not found
> don't look good to me at all.
> 
> Why do we run the workaround for everyone, not just for _the_ broken systems?
> 
> Moreover, why is "ASUS" hardcoded into the function as a known bad vendor
> rather than put into a table?

No, Mairo's system is a compal laptop, and I know that it does't have a
ECDT (as well as mine btw, today hardware is quite similar)

On top of that, I have asked Mairo to put acpi_ec_ecdt_probe(); just
below the acpi_initialize_objects, but he said his system didn't boot
after this change.

_SB._INI does some black SMI magic that might need a EC after all.

For reference, I attach acpidump of his system, and dmesg with some acpi
debugging enabled.

Mairo, could you post output of dmidecode, so I know exactly the laptop
model.


Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky

> 
> Thanks,
> Rafael
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