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Date:	Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:53:06 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>
Subject: [bug] /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied (Was:
	Re: [PATCH] Remove broken by design and by implementation devtmpfs
	maintenance disaster)


* Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com> wrote:

> Greg this code does not live up to the standards you have repeatedly 
> asserted are required for accepting core kernel code.  Neither you nor 
> Kay show any interest in fixing even the most trivial of bugs. Must 
> less discuss alternate solutions to the problem.

on a tangential note - i have no opinion yet in this discussion, but i 
found no pull request email on lkml and wanted to report a devtmpfs bug:

I've reproduced a bug with the following .config options:

  CONFIG_DEVTMPFS=y
  CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT=y

/dev/null and /dev/zero are not read/writable to ordinary users, 
breaking normal bootup and login:

  earth4:~/tip> m
  PTY allocation request failed on channel 0
  /etc/profile: line 30: /dev/null: Permission denied
                                                   
  /etc/profile.d/colorls.sh: line 3: /dev/null: Permission denied
                        /etc/profile.d/colorls.sh: line 4: /dev/null: 
  Permission denied
                                                                                     
  /etc/profile.d/vim.sh: line 5: /dev/null: Permission denied
                                                     Connection to m 
  closed by remote host.
  Connection to m closed.

Regarding the wish to have in-kernel code: another solution which i have 
not seen mentioned would be to move udev into tools/udev/ instead. That 
would give a single, coherent user-space kernel-space combo.

The concept certainly works great for tools/perf/.

The system boots up fine with devtmpfs disabled:

  earth4:~/tip> m
  Last login: Fri Sep 18 02:48:19 2009 from sirius
  mercury:~> 

	Ingo
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