linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] Added PR_SET_PROCTITLE

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Date:	Sun, 4 Oct 2009 22:21:12 -0400
From:	Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@...il.com>
To:	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>
Cc:	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...il.com>,
	Timo Sirainen <tss@....fi>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Added PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA option for prctl()

On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 9:59 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
<kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 9:38 PM, KOSAKI Motohiro
>> <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com> wrote:
>> >> The improvement idea is here.
>> >>
>> >> Changelog
>> >>   - Added task_lock() to prctl(PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA)
>> >>  -  Added small input sanity check to prctl(PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA)
>> >
>> > Doh, task_lock() is obviously wrong. please forget this.
>>
>> As another note, in general I think we'd need to hold a lock over the
>> entire operation. After all, if userspace changes its PROCTITLE_AREA,
>> and then reuses the memory for something else, we have an information
>> leak.
>
> if reusing occur, it's obviously userland fault. I don't think we need to care this.
> because current kernel also can be information leak by strcpy(argv[0], mypassword).
>
> I think they are userland bug both.

No, the scenario is:

Process B: Enter proc_pid_cmdline(), read arg_start and arg_end into
CPU registers
Process A: prctl(PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA)....
Process A: free(old_arg_area);
Process A: char *foo = malloc(...);
Process A: strcpy(foo, super_secret_password);
Process B: access_process_vm - using an area overlapping foo

Process B now has process A's secrets. This cannot be avoided by
process A, as it cannot control when process B will complete
proc_pid_cmdline(), and so the kernel must protect against this
scenario.  The only way a userspace process could prevent this is by
only using PR_SET_PROCTITLE_AREA once, and never reusing that memory,
ever. This does not seem like an appropriate restriction to pass down
to userspace for me...

Anyway, I'm working on a patch that uses the generation-counter approach now :)
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