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Date:	Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:52:40 +0200
From:	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@...il.com>
To:	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>
Cc:	Dan Williams <dcbw@...hat.com>, Ivo van Doorn <ivdoorn@...il.com>,
	Ozan Çağlayan <ozan@...dus.org.tr>,
	linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org,
	"linux-kernel" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Current status of rt2800usb and staging/rt2870

On Wednesday 14 October 2009 16:09:24 John W. Linville wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 11:57:57PM +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> 
> > Several months later (after all current users are happy with the improved
> > drivers) the old drivers will be removed from staging..
> 
> I _really_ hope this isn't the standard.  By that measure, nothing
> will ever leave staging as _someone_ will always have some use case
> that makes the other driver better for them.

Doesn't seem to be the case with all other drivers except wireless ones
and the only real reason why wireless ones are so special is because of:

"But then there's the users, who bitch about everything and simply do
not understand what it is at stake.

And all this is becoming way too messy for us to handle.

Personally all I see around me is people bitching and complaining, and
no code being ported."

attitude which pretty much explains the problem..

Please adjust the process to fix the problem yourself or if you do not
want to do it just make the room for people who do.
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