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Date:	Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:54:04 +0900 (JST)
From:	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com, Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>,
	stable@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"linux-mm@...ck.org\"" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Frans Pop <elendil@...net.nl>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
	Sven Geggus <lists@...hsschwanzdomain.de>,
	Karol Lewandowski <karol.k.lewandowski@...il.com>,
	Tobias Oetiker <tobi@...iker.ch>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@...net.com>,
	Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] vmscan: Force kswapd to take notice faster when high-order watermarks are being hit

> On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:40:33 +0000
> Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie> wrote:
> 
> > When a high-order allocation fails, kswapd is kicked so that it reclaims
> > at a higher-order to avoid direct reclaimers stall and to help GFP_ATOMIC
> > allocations. Something has changed in recent kernels that affect the timing
> > where high-order GFP_ATOMIC allocations are now failing with more frequency,
> > particularly under pressure. This patch forces kswapd to notice sooner that
> > high-order allocations are occuring.
> 
> "something has changed"?  Shouldn't we find out what that is?

if kswapd_max_order was changed, kswapd quickly change its own reclaim
order.

old:
  1. happen order-0 allocation
  2. kick kswapd
  3. happen high-order allocation
  4. change kswapd_max_order, but kswapd continue order-0 reclaim.
  5. kswapd end order-0 reclaim and exit balance_pgdat
  6. kswapd() restart balance_pdgat() with high-order

new:
  1. happen order-0 allocation
  2. kick kswapd
  3. happen high-order allocation
  4. change kswapd_max_order
  5. kswapd notice it and quickly exit balance_pgdat()
  6. kswapd() restart balance_pdgat() with high-order

> 
> > ---
> >  mm/vmscan.c |    9 +++++++++
> >  1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > index 64e4388..7eceb02 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -2016,6 +2016,15 @@ loop_again:
> >  					priority != DEF_PRIORITY)
> >  				continue;
> >  
> > +			/*
> > +			 * Exit the function now and have kswapd start over
> > +			 * if it is known that higher orders are required
> > +			 */
> > +			if (pgdat->kswapd_max_order > order) {
> > +				all_zones_ok = 1;
> > +				goto out;
> > +			}
> > +
> >  			if (!zone_watermark_ok(zone, order,
> >  					high_wmark_pages(zone), end_zone, 0))
> >  				all_zones_ok = 0;
> 
> So this handles the case where some concurrent thread or interrupt
> increases pgdat->kswapd_max_order while kswapd was running
> balance_pgdat(), yes?

Yes.

> Does that actually happen much?  Enough for this patch to make any
> useful difference?

In typical use-case, it doesn't have so much improvement. However some
driver use high-order allocation on interrupt context.
It mean we need quickly reclaim before GFP_ATOMIC allocation failure.

I agree these driver is ill. but...
We can't ignore enduser bug report.


> 
> If one where to whack a printk in that `if' block, how often would it
> trigger, and under what circumstances?
> 
> 
> If the -stable maintainers were to ask me "why did you send this" then
> right now my answer would have to be "I have no idea".  Help.





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