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Date:	Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:03:34 -0500 (EST)
From:	Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Cc:	Christian Hofstaedtler <ch@...a.at>, x86@...nel.org,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	bruce.w.allan@...el.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@...idpixels.com>,
	linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@...el.com>,
	Andrey Borzenkov <arvidjaar@...l.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add DMI quirk for Intel DP55KG mainboard

> > I believe that Venki is sending a patch to make all recent
> > motherboards use acpi reset by default; and I'd rather
> > see that kind of patch than this one.
> > 
> > I've had the patch below patch in acpi-test, and thus linus-next,
> > and -mm since Nov 2008 to change the default for
> > all systems w/ no issues.
> > 
> 
> Maybe I'm misremembering, but didn't we have to pull this patch after it
> hit mainstream the last time?


c7ffa6c26277b403920e2255d10df849bd613380
"x86: default to reboot via ACPI"

set ACPI as the default in 2.6.28-rc1

8d00450d296dedec9ada38d43b83e79cca6fd5a3
Revert "x86: default to reboot via ACPI"

pulled it in v2.6.28-rc4

The original patch was justified by VMX support,
and the revert was in response to Andrey Borzenkov's
DMI patch to usee BIOS reset on his Toshiba Porgege 4000:

http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/10/31/242

The Toshiba Portege 4000 shipped in early 2002.

The patch to restore ACPI reset to default has been in Linux-next
(with occasional drops) since the day it was dropped from 2.6.28-rc4.

As we have an existence proof, I have no doubt that using
ACPI reset by default will un-earth some regressions.  However,
my guess is that the DMI list of old machines that will fail
with ACPI reset will be smaller than by the DMI list of
brand-new machines that will fail without ACPI reset.

We couuld use a DMI year cut-off as we do with
ACPI itself CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR, though that
doesn't work on systems that don't have DMI...
If I were to propose a year, I'd say 2006 and newer,
since XP was "Windows 2006".

thanks,
Len Brown, Intel Open Source Technology Center
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