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Date:	Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:20:18 -0500
From:	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@...hat.com>
To:	Gui Jianfeng <guijianfeng@...fujitsu.com>
Cc:	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@...el.com>,
	Corrado Zoccolo <czoccolo@...il.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>,
	Yanmin Zhang <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cfq-iosched: rework seeky detection

Gui Jianfeng <guijianfeng@...fujitsu.com> writes:

> Shaohua Li wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 11:59:17PM +0800, Corrado Zoccolo wrote:
>>> Current seeky detection is based on average seek lenght.
>>> This is suboptimal, since the average will not distinguish between:
>>> * a process doing medium sized seeks
>>> * a process doing some sequential requests interleaved with larger seeks
>>> and even a medium seek can take lot of time, if the requested sector
>>> happens to be behind the disk head in the rotation (50% probability).
>>>
>>> Therefore, we change the seeky queue detection to work as follows:
>>> * each request can be classified as sequential if it is very close to
>>>   the current head position, i.e. it is likely in the disk cache (disks
>>>   usually read more data than requested, and put it in cache for
>>>   subsequent reads). Otherwise, the request is classified as seeky.
>>> * an history window of the last 32 requests is kept, storing the
>>>   classification result.
>>> * A queue is marked as seeky if more than 1/8 of the last 32 requests
>>>   were seeky.
>>>
>>> This patch fixes a regression reported by Yanmin, on mmap 64k random
>>> reads.
>> Can we not count a big request (say the request data is >= 32k) as seeky
>> regardless the seek distance? In this way we can also make a 64k random sync
>> read not as seeky.
>
>   Or maybe we can rely on *dynamic* CFQQ_SEEK_THR in terms of data lenght to 
>   determine whether a request should be a seeky one.

I'm not sure I understand the question, but it sounds like you're
assuming that the last_position tracks the beginning of the last I/O.
That's not the case.  It tracks the end of the last I/O, and so it
should not matter what the request size is.

Cheers,
Jeff
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