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Date:	Tue, 9 Mar 2010 03:09:11 +0100
From:	Luca Barbieri <luca.barbieri@...il.com>
To:	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Kyle McMartin <kyle@...artin.ca>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@....linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Upstream first policy

> <sarcasm>
> Yeah, especially when it's read by sshd.  Who cares, indeed?  So it's got
> a passwordless root, that's even better, right?  Nobody will see your
> real root password that way...
> </sarcasm>

Not sure what you mean exactly.
You won't have a passwordless root if you don't allow anyone to modify
the file at /etc/shadow, or change that dentry by deleting a file
there or putting an arbitrary file there (with creat, rename or link).
This is conceptually a path-based security check.

It is also separate from the problem of not giving anyone knowledge of
the root password or hash of it, which a conceptually content-based
security check on reads.
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