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Date:	Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:50:07 +0100
From:	Marco Stornelli <marco.stornelli@...il.com>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
CC:	Yuasa Yoichi <yuasa@...ux-mips.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Embedded <linux-embedded@...r.kernel.org>,
	jamie@...reable.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] char drivers: Ram oops/panic logger

Il 12/03/2010 23:48, Andrew Morton ha scritto:
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:15:25 +0100
> Marco Stornelli <marco.stornelli@...il.com> wrote:
> 
>> 2010/3/10 Yuasa Yoichi <yuasa@...ux-mips.org>:
>>> 2010/3/10 Marco Stornelli <marco.stornelli@...il.com>:
>>>> 2010/3/10 Yuasa Yoichi <yuasa@...ux-mips.org>:
>> I meant with the "classic" use of mtdoops, therefore with a flash
>> partition without use MTD_RAM. Using MTD_RAM, it's more or less the
>> same thing, with the exception of "where" you want deploy the log. For
>> example: if in your system you have got a nvram you can use it without
>> problem, you need to specify the address of the nvram to the module.
>> Very simple. I  think it's a small driver but very useful, feedback
>> from other embedded guys are welcome.
> 
> Seems sensible to me.  If you have a machine whose memory is persistent
> across reboots then you reserve an arbitrary 4k hunk of memory for
> collecting oops traces, yes?

Yes.

> 
> What tools are used for displaying that memory on the next boot?  How
> do those tools distinguish between "valid oops trace" and "garbage
> because it was just powered on"?  A magic signature?

For my test I used the program devmem2 to dump the log. In general, you
can read the memory via /dev/mem. There's an header plus a timestamp of
the log. The memory is initialized with blank spaces and the size of the
record is fixed at 4k, so if a program/script doesn't find the header at
next 4k, it means there's garbage and it can stop the read operation.

> 
> Should the kernel provide the 4k of memory rather than (or in addition
> to) requiring that the system administrator reserve it and tell the
> kernel about it?  That'd be a matter of creating a linker section which
> isn't cleared out by the startup code.
> 
> 

Yes, it can be an option. My first idea was to write a "general" driver,
with an address in input that it can be related to the reserved RAM as
an NVRAM in the system, however it can be a good idea, why not.

Marco
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