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Date:	Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:20:27 +0200
From:	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
CC:	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@...ux.intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Sheng Yang <sheng@...ux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>,
	oerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
	Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@...hat.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@...hat.com>,
	Zachary Amsden <zamsden@...hat.com>, ziteng.huang@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Enhance perf to collect KVM guest os statistics from
 host side

On 03/17/2010 10:16 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Avi Kivity<avi@...hat.com>  wrote:
>
>    
>> Monitoring guests from the host is useful for kvm developers, but less so
>> for users.
>>      
> Guest space profiling is easy, and 'perf kvm' is not about that. (plain 'perf'
> will work if a proper paravirt channel is opened to the host)
>
> I think you might have misunderstood the purpose and role of the 'perf kvm'
> patch here? 'perf kvm' is aimed at KVM developers: it is them who improve KVM
> code, not guest kernel users.
>    

Of course I understood it.  My point was that 'perf kvm' serves a tiny 
minority of users.  That doesn't mean it isn't useful, just that it 
doesn't satisfy all needs by itself.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

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