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Date:	Mon, 26 Apr 2010 16:32:53 +0200
From:	Jörn Engel <joern@...fs.org>
To:	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
	linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Paolo Minazzi <paolo.minazzi@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch] Catch filesystems lacking s_bdi

On Mon, 26 April 2010 11:48:11 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23 2010, Jörn Engel wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 April 2010 12:05:32 +0200, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > > 
> > > So it's probably safe and good enough as-is, I'll add it. Thanks!
> > 
> > I cannot see this patch in your tree yet.  Could be the weekend or a
> > deliberate decision not to send this for 2.6.34-rc anymore.
> 
> It's there, I put it in yesterday. It's definitely 2.6.34-rc material, I
> hope to submit it tonight.

Ok, thanks.

> > In case it was a deliberate decision, can we please make it explicit?  I
> > don't like the idea of adding a BUG_ON() that potentially triggers for
> > thousands of people this late in the stabilization process - but it is
> > better than having people lose data.  Even if we already ran two stable
> > kernels that way.
> > 
> > Damned if you do, damned if you don't. :(
> 
> Yeah, it's a bad situation to be in. I changed that BUG_ON() to a
> WARN_ON(). I'm not too worried about that part, I'm more worried about
> the file system changed. OTOH, they do lack proper flushing now, so it's
> likely not a huge risk from that perspective.

It is worse still.  Using mtd->backing_dev_info results in 
kernel BUG at fs/fs-writeback.c:157

which is BUG_ON(!work->seen); in bdi_queue_work().  Logfs is affected
and I bet jffs2 is as well.  So much for dwmw2 or me actually testing
the fix. :(

I did a hexdump to see what sb->s_bdi actually contained and the result
was this:
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00                          ........

Which should be mtd_bdi_unmappable.  And at this point I have to admit
being clueless.  What exactly should a struct backing_dev_info contain
and for what purposes?  And where is this documented?

Jörn

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