linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v21 001/100] eclone (1/11): Factor out code to allocate pidmap page

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Date:	Mon, 03 May 2010 14:02:31 -0700
From:	Dave Hansen <dave@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	orenl@...columbia.edu, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, serue@...ibm.com,
	matthltc@...ibm.com, xemul@...nvz.org, sukadev@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	linux-api@...r.kernel.org, x86@...nel.org,
	linux-s390@...r.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@...abs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v21 001/100] eclone (1/11): Factor out code to allocate
 pidmap page

On Sat, 2010-05-01 at 15:10 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> NO WAY, there is no way in the world you should post 100 patches
> at a time to any mailing list, especially those at vger.kernel.org
> that have thousands upon thousands of subscribers.
> 
> Post only small, well contained, sets of patches at a time.  At most
> 10 or so in one go.

Hi Dave,

I really do apologize if these caused undue traffic on vger.  It
certainly wasn't our intention to cause any problems.

We've had a fear all along that we'll just go back into our little
containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org, and go astray of what the
community wants done with these patches.  It's also important to
remember that these really do affect the entire kernel.  Unfortunately,
it's not really a single feature or something that fits well on any
other mailing list.  It has implications _everywhere_.  I think Andrew
Morton also asked that these continue coming to LKML, although his
request probably came at a time when the set was a wee bit smaller.

> Do you realize how much mail traffic you generate by posting so many
> patches at one time, and how unlikely it is for anyone to actually
> sift through and review your patches after you've spammed them by
> posting so many at one time?

I honestly don't expect people to be reading the whole thing at once.
But, I do hope that people can take a look at their individual bits that
are touched.

> A second infraction and I will have no choice but to block you at the
> SMTP level at vger.kernel.org so please do not do it again.

I know these patches are certainly not at the level of importance as,
say the pata or -stable updates, but they're certainly not of
unprecedented scale.  I've seen a number of patchbombs of this size
recently.

I hope Andrew pulls this set into -mm so this doesn't even come up
again.  But, if it does, can you make some suggestions on how to be more
kind to vger in the process?

-- Dave

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