lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Wed, 26 May 2010 23:51:07 -0700
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	piotr@...owicz.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@...cle.com>,
	Divyesh Shah <dpshah@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: BUG: using smp_processor_id() in preemptible [00000000] code:
 icedove-bin/5449

On Thu, 27 May 2010 08:46:38 +0200 Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 16:02 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > How is anyone supposed to use this?  What are the semantics of this
> > thing?  What are the units of its return value?  What is the base value
> > of its return value?  Does it return different times on different CPUs?
> > I assume so, otherwise why does sched_clock_cpu() exist?  <looks at
> > the sched_clock_cpu() documentation, collapses in giggles>
> 
> The point of the whole sched_clock_cpu() thing is to provide a fairly
> high resolution clock with bounded drift between cpus.
> 
> It also promises to be monotonic per cpu argument, that is,
> sched_clock_cpu(j) will, for a constant j always return a monotonic
> increasing timestamp.
> 
> It doesn't make much promises about its base (although people tend to
> want it to start at 0 on boot, but the users really shouldn't care).
> 
> sched_clock() doesn't promise either bounded drift between cpus nor
> monotonicity.
> 

OK, well please document these subtleties things in a very obvious place.

Right now the code is a landmine.  Some poor innocent drivers/foo/
developer can use them and add fantastically subtle
once-per-million-machine-year lockup-causing bugs which he'll never be
able to diagnose.

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ