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Date:	Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:56:11 -0700
From:	Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>
To:	Dave Airlie <airlied@...il.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>,
	alsa-devel@...a-project.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@...e.de>,
	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@....inr.ac.ru>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [PATCH] driver core: remove
	CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 04:32:46PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 03:00:31PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> >> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:24:18AM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Andrew Morton
> >> >> <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >> >> > On Fri, 9 Jul 2010 11:54:50 -0700
> >> >> > Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> This is no longer needed by any userspace tools, so it's safe to
> >> >> >> remove.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also still used for booting mainline kernels on RHEL5 userspaces.
> >> >
> >> > Really? ?I thought that was fixed a long time ago. ?What kernel was
> >> > RHEL5 originally based on?
> >> >
> >> > And note that no RHEL5 user is going to be using a .36 kernel on their
> >> > system, that's a completely unsupported and unadvised situation. ?Heck,
> >> > I'd be amazed if a .34 kernel.org kernel boots on the thing, does it?
> >> >
> >>
> >> I think some people do it internally, last time I did it was to test
> >> something I was backporting, so you want to make sure the upstream
> >> version boots and the backported version also boots on the same
> >> hw/userspace.
> >>
> >> original kernel was 2.6.18.
> >
> > Yes, that was the number, but does it really look anything like a .18
> > kernel.org release? ?:)
> >
> 
> Well its more that the userspace is mostly what was released at the
> same time, we aren't going to update udev/mkinitrd unless some major
> problem was discovered.

That's fine, I can provide an updated package for those looney users
that want to run this type of system :)

But ideally, I can figure out what is being needed and possibly reduce
the footprint that is currently covered by this config option.

thanks,

greg k-h
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