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Date:	Wed, 1 Sep 2010 14:19:51 +0200
From:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
To:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
Cc:	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Kleen, Andi" <andi.kleen@...el.com>,
	Haicheng Li <haicheng.li@...ux.intel.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Make is_mem_section_removable more conformable with
 offlining code

On Tue 31-08-10 22:19:42, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 05:22:46PM +0800, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Sun 22-08-10 08:42:32, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > Hi Michal,
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > 
> > > It helps to explain in changelog/code
> > > 
> > > - in what situation a ZONE_MOVABLE will contain !MIGRATE_MOVABLE
> > >   pages? 
> > 
> > page can be MIGRATE_RESERVE IIUC.
> 
> Yup, it may also be set to MIGRATE_ISOLATE by soft_offline_page().

Doesn't it make sense to check for !MIGRATE_UNMOVABLE then?

> 
> > >   And why the MIGRATE_MOVABLE test is still necessary given the
> > >   ZONE_MOVABLE check?
> > 
> > I would assume that the MIGRATE_MOVABLE test is not necessary (given that
> > the whole zone is set as movable) but this test is used also in the
> > offlining path (in set_migratetype_isolate) and the primary reason for
> > this patch is to sync those two checks. 
> 
> Merge the two checks into an inline function?

This sounds reasonable. I will update my patch as soon as I find a
proper place for the function (I guess include/linux/mmzone.h is the
best place).

> 
> > I am not familiar with all the possible cases for migrate flags so the
> > test reduction should be better done by someone more familiar with the
> > code (the zone flag test is much more easier than the whole
> > get_pageblock_migratetype so this could be a win in the end).
> 
> Feel free to swap the order of tests :)
> 
> > > 
> > > - why do you think free pages are not removeable? Simply to cater for
> > >   the set_migratetype_isolate() logic, or there are more fundamental
> > >   reasons?
> > 
> > Free pages can be from non movable zone, right? I know that having a
> > zone with the free page blocks in non-movable zone is extremely 
> > improbable but what is the point of this check anyway? So yes, this is
> > more to be in sync than anything more fundamental.
> 
> You don't have strong reasons to remove the free pages test, so why
> not keep it? 

OK, I think I do understand the free pages test. It just says that
everyting that is free is potentially movable by definition because
nobody uses this memory, right?

> We never know what the user will do. He may regretted
> immediately after onlining a node, and want to offline it..  Some
> hackers may want to offline some 128MB memory blocks (by chance) with
> the help of drop_caches.

I am not sure I understand what you are saying here.

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