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Date:	Fri, 3 Sep 2010 15:55:37 -0700
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>
Cc:	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: page allocator: Calculate a better estimate of
 NR_FREE_PAGES when memory is low and kswapd is awake

On Fri,  3 Sep 2010 10:08:45 +0100
Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie> wrote:

> From: Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>
> 
> Ordinarily watermark checks are based on the vmstat NR_FREE_PAGES as
> it is cheaper than scanning a number of lists. To avoid synchronization
> overhead, counter deltas are maintained on a per-cpu basis and drained both
> periodically and when the delta is above a threshold. On large CPU systems,
> the difference between the estimated and real value of NR_FREE_PAGES can
> be very high. If NR_FREE_PAGES is much higher than number of real free page
> in buddy, the VM can allocate pages below min watermark, at worst reducing
> the real number of pages to zero. Even if the OOM killer kills some victim
> for freeing memory, it may not free memory if the exit path requires a new
> page resulting in livelock.
> 
> This patch introduces a zone_page_state_snapshot() function (courtesy of
> Christoph) that takes a slightly more accurate of an arbitrary vmstat counter.
> It is used to read NR_FREE_PAGES while kswapd is awake to avoid the watermark
> being accidentally broken.  The estimate is not perfect and may result
> in cache line bounces but is expected to be lighter than the IPI calls
> necessary to continually drain the per-cpu counters while kswapd is awake.
> 

The "is kswapd awake" heuristic seems fairly hacky.  Can it be
improved, made more deterministic?  Exactly what state are we looking
for here?


> +/*
> + * More accurate version that also considers the currently pending
> + * deltas. For that we need to loop over all cpus to find the current
> + * deltas. There is no synchronization so the result cannot be
> + * exactly accurate either.
> + */
> +static inline unsigned long zone_page_state_snapshot(struct zone *zone,
> +					enum zone_stat_item item)
> +{
> +	long x = atomic_long_read(&zone->vm_stat[item]);
> +
> +#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> +	int cpu;
> +	for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
> +		x += per_cpu_ptr(zone->pageset, cpu)->vm_stat_diff[item];
> +
> +	if (x < 0)
> +		x = 0;
> +#endif
> +	return x;
> +}

aka percpu_counter_sum()!

Can someone remind me why per_cpu_pageset went and reimplemented
percpu_counters rather than just using them?

>  extern unsigned long global_reclaimable_pages(void);
>  extern unsigned long zone_reclaimable_pages(struct zone *zone);
>  
> diff --git a/mm/mmzone.c b/mm/mmzone.c
> index f5b7d17..e35bfb8 100644
> --- a/mm/mmzone.c
> +++ b/mm/mmzone.c
> @@ -87,3 +87,24 @@ int memmap_valid_within(unsigned long pfn,
>  	return 1;
>  }
>  #endif /* CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_HOLES_MEMORYMODEL */
> +
> +#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> +/* Called when a more accurate view of NR_FREE_PAGES is needed */
> +unsigned long zone_nr_free_pages(struct zone *zone)
> +{
> +	unsigned long nr_free_pages = zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES);
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * While kswapd is awake, it is considered the zone is under some
> +	 * memory pressure. Under pressure, there is a risk that
> +	 * per-cpu-counter-drift will allow the min watermark to be breached
> +	 * potentially causing a live-lock. While kswapd is awake and
> +	 * free pages are low, get a better estimate for free pages
> +	 */
> +	if (nr_free_pages < zone->percpu_drift_mark &&
> +			!waitqueue_active(&zone->zone_pgdat->kswapd_wait))
> +		return zone_page_state_snapshot(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES);
> +
> +	return nr_free_pages;
> +}

Is this really the best way of doing it?  The way we usually solve
this problem (and boy, was this bug a newbie mistake!) is:

	foo = percpu_counter_read(x);

	if (foo says something bad) {
		/* Bad stuff: let's get a more accurate foo */
		foo = percpu_counter_sum(x);
	}

	if (foo still says something bad)
		do_bad_thing();

In other words, don't do all this stuff with percpu_drift_mark and the
kswapd heuristic.  Just change zone_watermark_ok() to use the more
accurate read if it's about to return "no".

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