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Date:	Tue, 21 Sep 2010 18:17:43 +0200
From:	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mingo@...e.hu, paulus@...ba.org,
	davem@...emloft.net, fweisbec@...il.com,
	perfmon2-devel@...ts.sf.net, eranian@...il.com,
	robert.richter@....com, acme@...hat.com,
	Paul Menage <menage@...gle.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@...fujitsu.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbir@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] perf_events: add support for per-cpu per-cgroup
 monitoring (v3)

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 15:38 +0200, Stephane Eranian wrote:
>> > Hmm, indeed. One thing we can do about that is move perf into the
>> > cgroup, create the counter (disabled) using self to identify the cgroup,
>> > move perf back to where it came from, and enable the counter.
>> >
>> Yes, that's another possibility. I wonder if there are any non-obvious
>> difficulties with this approach.
>
> Yes, there is, but I think we can fix it. The problem with moving perf
> itself around is that perf is not a fully dormant process and can thus
> interact with the cgroup state.
>
I was thinking about memory accounting for instance.

> If we were to fork a child that's simply sitting idle in waitpid() (or
> any other blocking syscall) we can move that around cgroup without
> affecting the cgroup itself.

But then things get a bit more complicated because the perf_event_open()
has to be done in that child. File descriptors created in child processes
and not shared with their parent. You'd have to pass file descriptors around.
That seems overly complicated.

I wonder if overloading pid to be a file descriptor open to a cgroup_fs file
would not be easier in the end.


>>  Is it as simple as:
>>    FILE *fp;
>>    fp = fopen("/dev/cgroup/test/tasks", "w");
>>    fprintf(fp, "%d", gettid());
>>    close(fp):
>
> Except I've never in my life mounted a cgroup filesystem in /dev/ :-)
>
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