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Date:	Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:30:06 +0100
From:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
To:	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>
Cc:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mingo@...e.hu, laijs@...fujitsu.com,
	dipankar@...ibm.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	josh@...htriplett.org, niv@...ibm.com, tglx@...utronix.de,
	peterz@...radead.org, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu, dhowells@...hat.com,
	eric.dumazet@...il.com, darren@...art.com,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paul.mckenney@...aro.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 11/11] rcu: move TREE_RCU from softirq
 to kthread

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:03:56PM -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> * Steven Rostedt (rostedt@...dmis.org) wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 17:16 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 05:39:40PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > +/*
> > > > + * Wake up the current CPU's kthread.  This replaces raise_softirq()
> > > > + * in earlier versions of RCU.
> > > > + */
> > > > +static void invoke_rcu_kthread(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	unsigned long flags;
> > > > +	wait_queue_head_t *q;
> > > > +	int cpu;
> > > > +
> > > > +	local_irq_save(flags);
> > > > +	cpu = smp_processor_id();
> > > > +	if (per_cpu(rcu_cpu_kthread_task, cpu) == NULL) {
> > > > +		local_irq_restore(flags);
> > > > +		return;
> > > > +	}
> > > > +	per_cpu(rcu_cpu_has_work, cpu) = 1;
> > > > +	q = &per_cpu(rcu_cpu_wq, cpu);
> > > 
> > > I see you make extensive use of per_cpu() accessors even for
> > > local variables.
> > > 
> > > I tend to think it's better to use __get_cpu_var() for local
> > > accesses and keep per_cpu() for remote accesses.
> > > 
> > > There are several reasons for that:
> > > 
> > > * __get_cpu_var() checks we are in a non-preemptible section,
> > > per_cpu() doesn't. That may sound of a limited interest for code like the
> > > above, but by the time code can move, and then we might lose track of some
> > > things, etc...
> > 
> > Ah, but so does smp_processor_id() ;-)
> > 
> > > 
> > > * local accesses can be optimized by architectures. per_cpu() implies
> > > finding the local cpu number, and dereference an array of cpu offsets with
> > > that number to find the local cpu offset.
> > > __get_cpu_var() does a direct access to __my_cpu_offset which is a nice
> > > shortcut if the arch implements it.
> 
> [Adding Christoph Lameter to CC list]
> 
> This is not quite true on x86_64 and s390 anymore. __get_cpu_var() now
> uses a segment selector override to get the local CPU variable on x86.
> See x86's percpu.h for details.
> 
> So even performance-wise, using __get_cpu_var() over per_cpu() should be
> a win on widely used architectures nowadays,

Looking at x86_64, it indeed optimizes further by overriding this_cpu_ptr().
It does the same than the generic this_cpu_ptr() on an
overriden my_cpu_offset, but it also economizes a temporary store.

> 
> > 
> > True, but we could also argue that the multiple checks for being preempt
> > can also be an issue.
> 
> At least on x86 preemption don't actually need to be disabled: selection
> of the right per-cpu memory location is done atomically with the rest of
> the instruction by the segment selector.

It depends on the case, you may still need to disable preemption if you use
your variable further than just a quick op, which is often the case.

That's up to this_cpu_add() op things, depending on what the arch is capable
of wrt. local atomicity.
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