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Date:	Wed, 02 Mar 2011 08:40:43 +0100
From:	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To:	Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>
Cc:	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@...gle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: next buddy hint on sleep and preempt path

On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 23:08 -0800, Paul Turner wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Mike Galbraith <efault@....de> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 21:43 -0800, Paul Turner wrote:
> >> On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >        for_each_sched_entity(se) {
> >> >                cfs_rq = cfs_rq_of(se);
> >> >                dequeue_entity(cfs_rq, se, flags);
> >> >
> >> >                /* Don't dequeue parent if it has other entities besides us */
> >> > -               if (cfs_rq->load.weight)
> >> > +               if (cfs_rq->load.weight) {
> >> > +                       /*
> >> > +                        * Bias pick_next to pick a task from this cfs_rq, as
> >> > +                        * p is sleeping when it is within its sched_slice.
> >> > +                        */
> >> > +                       if (task_flags & DEQUEUE_SLEEP && se->parent)
> >> > +                               set_next_buddy(se->parent);
> >>
> >> re-using the last_buddy would seem like a more natural fit here; also
> >> doesn't have a clobber race with a wakeup
> >
> > Hm, that would break last_buddy no?  A preempted task won't get the CPU
> > back after light preempting thread deactivates.  (it's disabled atm
> > unless heavily overloaded anyway, but..)
> 
> Ommm yeah.. we're actually a little snookered in this case since the
> pre-empting thread's sleep will be voluntary which will try to return
> time to its hierarchy.
> 
> I suppose keeping the last_buddy is preferable to the occasional clobber.

Yeah, I think we don't want to break it.  I don't know if pgsql still
uses userland spinlocks, haven't run it in quite a while now, but with
those nasty things, last_buddy was the only thing that kept it from
collapsing into a quivering heap when you try to scale.  Preempting a
userland spinlock holder gets ugly in the extreme.

I'm going to test this patch some more, but in light testing, I saw no
interactivity problems with it, and it does _seem_ to be improving
throughput when there are competing grouped loads sharing the box.  I
haven't tested that heftily though, that's just watching the numbers and
recalling the relative effect of mixing loads previously.

	-Mike

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