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Date:	Wed, 06 Apr 2011 12:49:13 +0300
From:	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
CC:	Gleb Natapov <gleb@...hat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@...emonkey.ws>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, aarcange@...hat.com,
	mtosatti@...hat.com, kvm@...r.kernel.org, joro@...tes.org,
	penberg@...helsinki.fi, asias.hejun@...il.com, gorcunov@...il.com
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Native Linux KVM tool

On 04/06/2011 12:46 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Gleb Natapov<gleb@...hat.com>  wrote:
>
> >  On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 11:33:33AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >
> >  >  So no, your kind of cynical, defeatist sentiment about code quality is by
> >  >  no means true in my experience. Projects become ugly gooballs once
> >  >  maintainers stop caring enough.
> >
> >  In case of Qemu it was other way around. Maintainers started caring too late.
>
> Nah, i do not think it's ever too late to care.
>
> Example: arch/i386 - arch/x86_64/ was very messy for many, many years and we
> turned it around and can be proud of arch/x86/ today - but i guess i'm somewhat
> biased there ;-)
>
> In my experience it's entirely possible to turn a messy gooball into something
> you can be proud of - it's all reversible. Start small, with the core bits you
> care about most - then extend those concepts to other areas of the code base,
> gradually. There might be subsystems that will never turn around before
> becoming obsolete - that's not a big problem.

That is what we're trying to do with qemu.

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