lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Mon, 16 May 2011 22:13:19 +0530
From:	Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@...com>
To:	Colin Cross <ccross@...roid.com>
CC:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Srinidhi KASAGAR <srinidhi.kasagar@...ricsson.com>,
	Harald Gustafsson <harald.gustafsson@...csson.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.ml.walleij@...il.com>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Rickard ANDERSSON <rickard.andersson@...ricsson.com>,
	Varun Swara <Varun.Swara@....com>,
	martin persson <martin.persson@...ricsson.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: twd: Adjust localtimer frequency withcpufreqnotifiers

On 5/16/2011 9:59 PM, Colin Cross wrote:
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Thomas Gleixner<tglx@...utronix.de>  wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 May 2011, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>>> On 5/14/2011 9:21 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> Just for my understanding, the clockevents_reconfigure() needs to
>>> be called with interrupts disabled on that CPU as part of
>>> the CPUFREQ notifiers. I assume the right place is do it
>>> in POST notifier after the CPU clock and hence TWD clock is
>>> updated. Is that right ?
>>
>> Yes.
>
> Is it safe to only call it in POST?  If the frequency is increasing,
> and the TWD is not updated until after the CPU frequency has changed,
> it is possible for a clockevent to fire too early.  Will that cause
> problems, or does the clockevent code check against a clocksource to
> ensure the desired time has been reached?  If that is OK, it
> drastically simplifies the code, because the driver only needs to know
> the current TWD frequency, not predict a future TWD frequency.
>
This was the exact reason I asked this question. As discussed
earlier on this thread, we observed drift in ticks especially
at lowest and highest clock-points. But they way I understood
is clockevents_reconfigure() will block those additional
ticks at least during the reconfiguration of the clock-event.


>>> Since there is need to call this API in interrupt
>>> disable context, does it make sense to take care of it
>>> inside the API itself instead of relying on caller fn ?
>>
>> Hmm, no strong opinion
>
> For SMP TWD, the caller will always be in interrupt disabled mode,
> because the cpufreq notifier will get called on a random cpu, so
> smp_call_function_single will be used to transition to the correct
> cpu, which disables interrupts.
>
Ok. So it's indirectly taken care then.

>>> The arch's where the per CPU TWD's share clock, per-cpu
>>> clock-events should be reconfigured on all CPUs, whenever
>>> the parent(CPU) clock has changed using some thing like
>>> smp_call_function_any() etc. Is that right understanding?
>>
>> Yes. If that's a common requirement we should move that to core code.
>
> Santosh, are you suggesting the TWD be updated from the clock
> framework instead of the cpufreq notifier?
>
That's where I was kind of leaning to. Basically doing this in common
core code at one place and possibly outside the ARM TWD library. You
might get same requirement on other arch's in future.

> I believe ARMv7 requires all CPUs to run at the same frequency, so it
> would be possible to do this in the core code somewhere, but A15 has
> fixed frequency counters, and all SMP Cortex-A9s I've seen use the SMP
> TWD driver, so in practice this may end up being the only user.
>
Yes but the code managing the architectural timer(A15) and TWD(A9) is
different. But I understand your point about the usage and it
might be limited to CA9 at this point of time.

> It would be possible for the clockevent to have a flag
> CLOCKEVENT_EVT_FEAT_SCALES_WITH_CPU, which registers a cpufreq
> notifier, if there were any other users.
 >
Something like this is better to get better clarity on the
hardware behavior. O.w we will have piece of code in TWD
library which needs proper documentation about the
usage of likes of smp_call_function_single().

Regards
Santosh





--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ