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Date:	Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:43:21 +0800
From:	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@...el.com>
To:	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"mgorman@...e.de" <mgorman@...e.de>, linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]vmscan: fix a livelock in kswapd

On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 00:51 +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 04:53:04PM +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 16:45 +0800, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@...el.com> wrote:
> > > > I'm running a workload which triggers a lot of swap in a machine with 4 nodes.
> > > > After I kill the workload, I found a kswapd livelock. Sometimes kswapd3 or
> > > > kswapd2 are keeping running and I can't access filesystem, but most memory is
> > > > free. This looks like a regression since commit 08951e545918c159.
> > > 
> > > Could you tell me what is 08951e545918c159?
> > > You mean [ebd64e21ec5a,
> > > mm-vmscan-only-read-new_classzone_idx-from-pgdat-when-reclaiming-successfully]
> > > ?
> > ha, sorry, I should copy the commit title.
> > 08951e545918c159(mm: vmscan: correct check for kswapd sleeping in
> > sleeping_prematurely)
> > 
> 
> I don't mean it. In my bogus git tree, I can't find it but I can look at it in repaired git tree. :)
> Anyway, I have a comment. Please look at below.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 03:09:27PM +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > I'm running a workload which triggers a lot of swap in a machine with 4 nodes.
> > After I kill the workload, I found a kswapd livelock. Sometimes kswapd3 or
> > kswapd2 are keeping running and I can't access filesystem, but most memory is
> > free. This looks like a regression since commit 08951e545918c159.
> > Node 2 and 3 have only ZONE_NORMAL, but balance_pgdat() will return 0 for
> > classzone_idx. The reason is end_zone in balance_pgdat() is 0 by default, if
> > all zones have watermark ok, end_zone will keep 0.
> > Later sleeping_prematurely() always returns true. Because this is an order 3
> > wakeup, and if classzone_idx is 0, both balanced_pages and present_pages
> > in pgdat_balanced() are 0.
> 
> Sigh. Yes.
> 
> > We add a special case here. If a zone has no page, we think it's balanced. This
> > fixes the livelock.
> 
> Yes. Your patch can fix it but I don't like that it adds handling special case.
> (Although Andrew merged quickly).
The special case is reasonable, because if a zone has no page, it should
be considered balanced.

> The problem is to return 0-classzone_idx if all zones was okay.
> So how about this?
My original implementation is like this (I return a populated zone with
minimum zone index). But I changed my mind later. the end_zone is zone
we work, so return 0 is reasonable, because all zones are ok. Maybe we
should return -1 if all zones are ok, but this is another story.

> This can change old behavior slightly.
> For example, if balance_pgdat calls with order-3 and all zones are okay about order-3,
> it will recheck order-0 as end_zone isn't 0 any more.
> But I think it's desriable side effect we have missed.
if order-3 is ok, order-0 is ok too I think, so the check is
unnecessary.

Thanks,
Shaohua

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