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Date:	Tue, 13 Sep 2011 12:50:33 -0700
From:	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
Cc:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mingo@...e.hu, laijs@...fujitsu.com,
	dipankar@...ibm.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca, josh@...htriplett.org,
	niv@...ibm.com, tglx@...utronix.de, peterz@...radead.org,
	rostedt@...dmis.org, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu, dhowells@...hat.com,
	eric.dumazet@...il.com, darren@...art.com, patches@...aro.org,
	anton@...ba.org, paulus@...ba.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 55/55] powerpc: Work around tracing from
 dyntick-idle mode

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:13:21PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 06:44:00AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 07:00:22AM -0300, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 11:00 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > PowerPC LPAR's __trace_hcall_exit() can invoke event tracing at a
> > > > point where RCU has been told that the CPU is in dyntick-idle mode.
> > > > Because event tracing uses RCU, this can result in failures.
> > > > 
> > > > A correct fix would arrange for RCU to be told about dyntick-idle
> > > > mode after tracing had completed, however, this will require some care
> > > > because it appears that __trace_hcall_exit() can also be called from
> > > > non-dyntick-idle mode.
> > > 
> > > This obviously needs to be fixed properly. hcall tracing is very useful
> > > and if I understand your patch properly, it just comments it out :-)
> > 
> > That is exactly what it does, and I completely agree that this patch
> > is nothing but a short-term work-around to allow my RCU tests to find
> > other bugs.
> > 
> > > I'm not sure what the best approach is, maybe have the hcall tracing
> > > test for the dyntick-idle mode and skip tracing in that case ?
> > 
> > Another approach would be to update Frederic Weisbecker's patch at:
> > 
> > 	https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/8/20/83
> > 
> > so that powerpc does tick_nohz_enter_idle(false), and then uses
> > rcu_enter_nohz() explicitly just after doing the hcall tracing.
> > If pseries is the only powerpc architecture requiring this, then
> > the argument to tick_nohz_enter_idle() could depend on the powerpc
> > sub-architecture.
> 
> I'm trying to fix this but I need a bit of help to understand the
> pseries cpu sleeping.
> 
> In pseries_dedicated_idle_sleep(), what is the function that does
> the real sleeping? Is it cede_processor()?

As I understand it, cede_processor()'s call to plpar_hcall_norets()
results in the hypervisor being invoked, and could give up the CPU.
And yes, in this case, RCU needs to stop paying attention to this CPU.
And pseries_shared_idle_sleep() also invokes cede_proceessor().

Gah...  And there also appear to be some assembly-language functions
that can be invoked via the ppc_md.power_save() call from cpu_idle():
ppc6xx_idle(), power4_idle(), idle_spin(), idle_doze(), and book3e_idle().
There is also a power7_idle(), but it does not appear to be used anywhere.

Plus there are the C-language ppc44x_idle(), beat_power_save(),
cbe_power_save(), ps3_power_save(), and cpm_idle().

> > The same thing would be needed for tick_nohz_exit_idle() and
> > rcu_exit_nohz(): powerpc would need to invoke rcu_exit_nohz() after
> > gaining control from the hypervisor but before doing its first tracing,
> > and then it would need the idle loop to to tick_nohz_exit_idle(false).
> > Again, if pseries is the only powerpc architecture requiring this,
> > the argument to tick_nohz_exit_idle() could depend on the architecture.
> > 
> > Would this approach work?
> 
> Sounds like we really need that.

Sounds like an arch-dependent config symbol that is defined for the
pseries targets, but not for the other powerpc architectures.

Not clear to me what to do about power4_idle(), though.

							Thanx, Paul
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