linux-kernel - Re: [PATCHv4] DMAEngine: Define interleaved transfer request api

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Date:	Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:20:30 +0530
From:	Jassi Brar <jaswinder.singh@...aro.org>
To:	Russell King <rmk@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	"Bounine, Alexandre" <Alexandre.Bounine@....com>,
	"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
	Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@...el.com>,
	Barry Song <21cnbao@...il.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	DL-SHA-WorkGroupLinux <workgroup.linux@....com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4] DMAEngine: Define interleaved transfer request api

On 18 October 2011 15:19, Russell King <rmk@....linux.org.uk> wrote:

>> >> > With item #1 above being a separate topic, I may have a problem with #2
>> >> > as well: dma_addr_t is sized for the local platform and not guaranteed
>> >> > to be a 64-bit value (which may be required by a target).
>> >> > Agree with #3 (if #1 and #2 work).
>> >> >
>> >> Perhaps simply change dma_addr_t to u64 in dmaengine.h alone ?
>> >
>> > That's just an idiotic suggestion - there's no other way to put that.
>> > Let's have some sanity here.
>> >
>> Yeah, I am not proud of the workaround, so I only probed the option.
>> I think I need to explain myself.
>>
>> The case here is that even a 32-bit RapidIO host could ask transfer against
>> 64-bit address space on a remote device. And vice versa 64->32.
>>
>> > dma_addr_t is the size of a DMA address for the CPU architecture being
>> > built.  This has no relationship to what any particular DMA engine uses.
>> >
>> Yes, so far the dmaengine ever only needed to transfer within platform's
>> address-space. So the assumption that src and dst addresses could
>> be contained within dma_addr_t, worked.
>> If the damengine is to get rid of that assumption/constraint, the memcpy,
>> slave_sg etc need to accept addresses specified in bigger of the host and
>> remote address space, and u64 is the safe option.
>> Ultimately dma_addr_t is either u32 or u64.
>
> Let me spell it out:
>
> 1. Data structures read by the DMA engine hardware should not be defined
>   using the 'dma_addr_t' type, but one of the [bl]e{8,16,32,64} types,
>   or at a push the u{8,16,32,64} types if they're always host-endian.
>
>   This helps to ensure that the layout of the structures read by the
>   hardware are less dependent of the host architecture and each element
>   is appropriately sized (and, with sparse and the endian-sized types,
>   can be endian-checked at compile time.)
>
> 2. dma_addr_t is the size of the DMA address for the host architecture.
>   This may be 32-bit or 64-bit depending on the host architecture.
>
> The following points are my opinion:
>
> 3. For architectures where there are only 32-bit DMA addresses, dma_addr_t
>   will be a 32-bit type.  For architectures where there are 64-bit DMA
>   addresses, it will be a 64-bit type.
>
> 4. If RIO can accept 64-bit DMA addresses but is only connected to 32-bit
>   busses, then the top 32 address bits are not usable (it's truncated in
>   hardware.)  So there's no point passing around a 64-bit DMA address.
>
> 5. In the case of a 64-bit dma_addr_t and a 32-bit DMA engine host being
>   asked to transfer >= 4GB, this needs error handing in the DMA engine
>   driver (I don't think its checked for - I know amba-pl08x doesn't.)
>
> 6. 32-bit dma_addr_t with 64-bit DMA address space is a problem and is
>   probably a bug in itself - the platform should be using a 64-bit
>   dma_addr_t in this case.  (see 3.)
>
Thanks for the detailed explanation.

RapidIO is a packet switched interconnect with parallel or serial interface.
Among other things, a packet contains 32, 48 or 64 bit offset into the
remote-endpoint's address space. So I don't get how any of the above
6 points apply here.

Though I agree it is peculiar for a networking technology to expose a
DMAEngine interface. But I assume Alex has good reasons for it, who
knows RIO better than us.
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