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Date:	Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:03:13 +0200
From:	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
To:	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
Cc:	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@...il.com>,
	lkml - Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@...abs.ru>,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@...hat.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>,
	Krishna Kumar <krkumar2@...ibm.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@....com>,
	Wang Sheng-Hui <shhuiw@...il.com>,
	virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	avi@...hat.com, penberg@...nel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 RFC] virtio-spec: flexible configuration layout

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 02:54:31PM +1030, Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:57:28 +0200, Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@...il.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 22:52 +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 10:24:47PM +0200, Sasha Levin wrote:
> > > > It'll be a bit harder deprecating it in the future.
> > > 
> > > Harder than ... what ?
> > 
> > Harder than allowing devices not to present it at all if new layout
> > config is used. Right now the simple implementation is to use MMIO for
> > config and device specific, and let it fallback to legacy for ISR and
> > notifications (and therefore, this is probably how everybody will
> > implement it), which means that when you do want to deprecate legacy,
> > there will be extra work to be done then, instead of doing it now.
> 
> Indeed, I'd like to see two changes to your proposal:
> 
> (1) It should be all or nothing.  If a driver can find the virtio header
>     capability, it should only use the capabilties.  Otherwise, it
>     should fall back to legacy.  Your draft suggests a mix is possible;
>     I prefer a clean failure (ie. one day don't present a BAR 0 *at
>     all*, so ancient drivers just fail to load.).
> (2) There's no huge win in keeping the same layout.  Let's make some
>     cleanups.  There are more users ahead of us then behind us (I
>     hope!).
> But I think this is the right direction!
> 
> Thanks,
> Rusty.

I'll do these changes, thanks!
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