linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] ata: Don't use NO_IRQ in pata_of

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:	Tue, 6 Dec 2011 11:20:49 -0800
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@....linux.org.uk>
Cc:	Dave Martin <dave.martin@...aro.org>,
	Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@...aro.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	Anton Vorontsov <cbouatmailru@...il.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	devicetree-discuss@...ts.ozlabs.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-ide@...r.kernel.org,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...otime.net>,
	linux-next@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@...hat.com>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@....com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ata: Don't use NO_IRQ in pata_of_platform driver

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:46 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux
<linux@....linux.org.uk> wrote:
>
> But.. let's make one thing clear: Alan Cox and Linus have been going on
> about how IRQ0 should not be used.  Let's be crystal clear: even x86
> uses IRQ0.

Not for any device driver, though.

It's used entirely internally, and it doesn't even use
"request_irq()". It uses the magic internal "setup_irq()" and never
*ever* exposes irq0 as anything that a driver can see.

That's what matters. You can use irq0 in ARM land all you like, AS
LONG AS IT'S SOME HIDDEN INTERNAL USE. No drivers. No *nothing* that
ever uses that absolutely *idiotic* NO_IRQ crap.

In fact, you may be *forced* to use what is "physically" irq0 - it's
just that you should never expose it as such to drivers. And x86
doesn't.

So Russell, if you think this has anything to do with NO_IRQ, and how
x86 isn't doing things right, you're wrong. It's just like the
internal exception thing, or the magical "cascade interrupt", or the
"x87 exception mapped through the PIC". They are magic hidden
interrupts that are set up in one place (well, one place *each*), and
are never exposed anywhere else.

The problem with NO_IRQ is that stupid "we expose our mind-numbingly
stupid interfaces across the whole kernel".

x86 never did that.  ARM still does. x86 doesn't have to fix anything. ARM does.

                Linus
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/