linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] PR_SET_NO_NEW

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:	Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:57:47 -0800
From:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:	Colin Walters <walters@...bum.org>
Cc:	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>,
	Will Drewry <wad@...omium.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	keescook@...omium.org, john.johansen@...onical.com,
	serge.hallyn@...onical.com, coreyb@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	pmoore@...hat.com, eparis@...hat.com, djm@...drot.org,
	segoon@...nwall.com, rostedt@...dmis.org, jmorris@...ei.org,
	scarybeasts@...il.com, avi@...hat.com, penberg@...helsinki.fi,
	viro@...iv.linux.org.uk, mingo@...e.hu, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	khilman@...com, borislav.petkov@....com, amwang@...hat.com,
	oleg@...hat.com, ak@...ux.intel.com, eric.dumazet@...il.com,
	gregkh@...e.de, dhowells@...hat.com, daniel.lezcano@...e.fr,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, olofj@...omium.org,
	mhalcrow@...gle.com, dlaor@...hat.com, corbet@....net,
	alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] PR_SET_NO_NEW_PRIVS, unshare, and chroot

On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Colin Walters <walters@...bum.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-01-16 at 13:25 -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>
>> The MS_NOSUID semantics are somewhat ridiculous for selinux,
>
> I don't see how they're ridiculous.

exec_sid is silently ignored.  So runcon will not switch context but
will still appear to succeed.

>
>> and I'd
>> rather not make them match for no_new_privs.
>
> Note your patch for selinux does exactly the same thing in the NOSUID
> case and your NO_NEW_PRIVS flag.  Right?
>
> -       if (bprm->file->f_path.mnt->mnt_flags & MNT_NOSUID)
> +       if ((bprm->file->f_path.mnt->mnt_flags & MNT_NOSUID) ||
> +           (bprm->unsafe & LSM_UNSAFE_NO_NEW_PRIVS))
>                new_tsec->sid = old_tsec->sid;
>

See several lines up.

>
>>  AppArmor completely
>> ignores MS_NOSUID,
>
> Ugh...well, I guess if it doesn't store any security data associated
> with files, only with file names, then there's nothing for it to do.

Nope.  It looks it up by file name or path, I think.

> Like I said before though, I think SELinux is the only sane LSM.

I think the fact that there is a bprm_set_creds hook at all is insane,
but maybe that's just me.  I think this is one of the things that
Windows does far better than POSIX.  On Windows, CreateProcess (the
moral equivalent of execve) never gains privileges.

--Andy
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/