linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] firmware loader: don't cancel _nowait requests when helper is not yet available

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Date:	Tue, 20 Mar 2012 00:00:43 +0100
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...eaurora.org>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Saravana Kannan <skannan@...eaurora.org>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@...glemail.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	Linux PM mailing list <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] firmware loader: don't cancel _nowait requests when helper is not yet available

On Monday, March 19, 2012, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Monday, March 19, 2012, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > On 3/18/2012 5:01 AM, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Sunday, March 18, 2012, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ok. I like where nowait() is going in the other part of the thread but
> > >> I'm still confused about when request_firmware() is correct to use. It
> > >> seems that the function is inherently racy with freezing. Does every
> > >> user of request_firmware() need to synchronize with freezing?
> > >>
> > >> For example, if one CPU is in the middle of a driver probe that makes a
> > >> request_firmware() call and another CPU is starting to suspend we will
> > >> have a race between usermodehelpers being disabled and the
> > >> request_firmware() call acquiring the usermodehelper rwsem. If the
> > >> suspending CPU wins the race it will disable usermodehelpers and the
> > >> request_firmware() call will return -EBUSY and warn.
> > > Yes, it will.
> > 
> > That sounds wrong then, no? Why don't we have request_firmware() do a
> > read_lock on the usermodehelpers sem and then have suspend do a write
> > lock, disable usermodehelpers, wait for any users  to finish, freeze
> > processes and then unlock the write lock? That way we don't hit a case
> > where request_firmware() races with suspend, and we don't have to change
> > the warning or conditional.
> 
> So, you're postulating that the freezing of tasks be done under
> umhelper_sem write-locked, right?
> 
> That would lead to freezing failures if a user space task waited in
> request_firmware() for umhelper_sem to become available for read-locking
> and unfortunately we don't have an interruptible variant of down_read().
> 
> However, we may catch request_firmware() and try to freeze the task
> calling it instead.  I'll try to prototype something along these lines later
> today (on top of the three "firmware_class" patches I posted yesterday).

Well, that's going to take some more time, as it's more complicated than
I thought initially.  Please, stay tuned.

Thanks,
Rafael

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