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Date:	Wed, 04 Apr 2012 12:38:35 +0200
From:	Mike Galbraith <mgalbraith@...e.de>
To:	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
Cc:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Li Zefan <lizf@...fujitsu.com>,
	Paul Menage <paul@...lmenage.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch] cgroups: disallow attaching kthreadd

On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 00:15 -0700, David Rientjes wrote: 
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> 
> > The hazzards of moving kthreadd into a non-root cgroup is still present
> > in mainline.  Last go 'round stalled with Peter not liking the
> > cpuset,cpu per controller specific exclusion.  I agree that total
> > exclusion is the better option, and below is a respin doing that.
> > 
> 
> We've been through this several times now iterating between two different 
> functional changes.  I appreciate the persistence, but please, again, 
> explain why you are doing this at the cgroups level rather than the 
> cpusets level?
> 
> The last time we discussed this, you had proposed a patch to only do this 
> for cpusets after the points I'm about to bring up for the fifth time.  
> Peter ended up not responding and as I remember it didn't have strong 
> feelings against doing it only for cpusets.  And here we are, yet again, 
> back to the cgroups version.

Suggest a third version.

> There's _nothing_ wrong with attaching a kthread to most cgroups.  We do 
> it for memcg.  And now you're trying to break it for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON.

Oh, caps made that so much more legible.

One, I don't see what it's breaking, and two, the reason for this repeat
is that the last attempt with cpuset,cpu exclusion did not fly.

I don't care how it gets fixed.  I just thought I should mention that
the problem is still alive upstream, did that, and was told I should try
this way again with CCs.

Ok, so you NAK this way, Peter NAKS the other way, and the bug lives on
forever.  So be it.

-Mike

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