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Date:	Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:46:56 -0700
From:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VFS: add config options to enable link restrictions

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> wrote:
>> There are situations where devices running without initrds may need
>> very early protection from link vulnerabilities
>
> I really don't see what this argument is all about.
>
> If you don't have initrd, you still have early bootup scripts etc.
>
> If your early bootup has security problems, you have security
> problems. It has nothing to do with initrd, or with restricted links,
> or anything else.

I think there's value in being able to enable these protections at
build-time so there's no need for a distro to have to ship extra
files/lines, spend time setting it, etc. This isn't like other
tunables, IMO.

> I also refuse to add these kinds of micro-management config options
> and ask any kind of normal person these kinds of "do you want this
> random crazy feature". A config option would need to be way more sane,
> not this kind of micro-management.

Would a single config item be acceptable? What would be an agreeable
way to enable this at build-time?

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook
Chrome OS Security
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