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Date:	Mon, 19 Nov 2012 23:00:43 +0100
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@...el.com>
Cc:	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] PCI/PM: Keep runtime PM enabled for unbound PCI devices

On Monday, November 19, 2012 11:31:01 AM Alan Stern wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Huang Ying wrote:
> 
> > For unbound PCI devices, what we need is:
> > 
> >  - Always in D0 state, because some devices does not work again after
> >    being put into D3 by the PCI bus.
> > 
> >  - In SUSPENDED state if allowed, so that the parent devices can still
> >    be put into low power state.
> > 
> > To satisfy these requirement, the runtime PM for the unbound PCI
> > devices are disabled and set to SUSPENDED state.  One issue of this
> > solution is that the PCI devices will be put into SUSPENDED state even
> > if the SUSPENDED state is forbidden via the sysfs interface
> > (.../power/control) of the device.  This is not an issue for most
> > devices, because most PCI devices are not used at all if unbounded.
> > But there are exceptions.  For example, unbound VGA card can be used
> > for display, but suspend its parents make it stop working.
> > 
> > To fix the issue, we keep the runtime PM enabled when the PCI devices
> > are unbound.  But the runtime PM callbacks will do nothing if the PCI
> > devices are unbound.  This way, we can put the PCI devices into
> > SUSPENDED state without put the PCI devices into D3 state.
> > 
> > Known issue: after some changing, pci_dev->driver is used to indicate
> > whether the PCI devices are bound and whether the runtime PM callbacks
> > should do nothing.  Maybe it is better to use a dedicated flag such as
> > .skip_rtpm_callbacks.  That may improve code readability.
> 
> I think it's okay like this, especially if you add a comment in 
> pci_runtime_suspend, pci_runtime_resume, and pci_runtime_idle 
> explaining that when pci_dev->driver isn't set, the device should 
> always remain in D0 regardless of the runtime status.

Yes, I agree with Alan.  Please add comments as Alan's suggesting and it
should be fine.

Thanks,
Rafael



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Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.
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