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Date:	Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:41:39 -0500 (EST)
From:	Dave Anderson <anderson@...hat.com>
To:	JoonSoo Kim <js1304@...il.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@....linux.org.uk>,
	kexec@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Atsushi Kumagai <kumagai-atsushi@....nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] remove vm_struct list management



----- Original Message -----

> > Can we get the same information from this rb-tree of vmap_area? Is
> > ->va_start field communication same information as vmlist was
> > communicating? What's the difference between vmap_area_root and vmlist.
> 
> Thanks for comment.
> 
> Yes. vmap_area's va_start field represent same information as vm_struct's addr.
> vmap_area_root is data structure for fast searching an area.
> vmap_area_list is address sorted list, so we can use it like as vmlist.
> 
> There is a little difference vmap_area_list and vmlist.
> vmlist is lack of information about some areas in vmalloc address space.
> For example, vm_map_ram() allocate area in vmalloc address space,
> but it doesn't make a link with vmlist. To provide full information
> about vmalloc address space, using vmap_area_list is more adequate.
> 
> > So without knowing details of both the data structures, I think if vmlist
> > is going away, then user space tools should be able to traverse vmap_area_root
> > rb tree. I am assuming it is sorted using ->addr field and we should be
> > able to get vmalloc area start from there. It will just be a matter of
> > exporting right fields to user space (instead of vmlist).
> 
> There is address sorted list of vmap_area, vmap_area_list.
> So we can use it for traversing vmalloc areas if it is necessary.
> But, as I mentioned before, kexec write *just* address of vmlist and
> offset of vm_struct's address field.  It imply that they don't traverse vmlist,
> because they didn't write vm_struct's next field which is needed for traversing.
> Without vm_struct's next field, they have no method for traversing.
> So, IMHO, assigning dummy vm_struct to vmlist which is implemented by [7/8] is
> a safe way to maintain a compatibility of userspace tool. :)

Why bother keeping vmlist around?  kdump's makedumpfile command would not
even need to traverse the vmap_area rbtree, because it could simply look
at the first vmap_area in the sorted vmap_area_list, correct?

Dave Anderson


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