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Date:	Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:00:21 +0100
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Kristen C. Accardi" <kristen.c.accardi@...el.com>,
	Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] ACPI / PM: Expose lists of device power resources to user space

On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 05:03:59 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 01:17:47AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 01:08:54 AM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 03:56:24 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 03:28:23AM +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > Oh, and same question about racing userspace, you will have problems
> > > > here in that the symlinks will be showing up after the device is
> > > > created.  Perhaps, to make the whole thing easier, you just change the
> > > > acpi core code to hold off on the notification until you get all of
> > > > these links and files set up and then tell userspace.  That's probably
> > > > an easier fix.
> > > 
> > > I suppose so.
> > > 
> > > How can I do that?
> > 
> > Should I set dev->kobj.uevent_suppress before calling device_register() and
> > then clear it and call the kobject_uevent(&dev->kobj, KOBJ_ADD) from the ACPI
> > core after device_register() has returned and the files have been created?
> 
> Ick, that might work, but the "traditional" way is to just do the
> creation of the device in two steps.
> 
> First call device_initialize().  Then you can do what you want to the
> device, add sysfs files, etc.  Then call device_add() which "finalizes"
> the device in the driver core and tells userspace all about it.

Well, this quite obviously doesn't work. :-)

If I call acpi_device_setup_files() between device_initialize() and
device_add(), it will trigger the BUG_ON() in sysfs_create_file(), because
kobj->sd is still NULL at this point.

> The USB core has been doing this since the beginning of time (well, since we
> wrote the driver model) and it has worked out pretty well.

I guess it does something slightly different from what I need to do, however.

> Calling dev_set_uevent_suppress() would also probably work, like you
> point out the firmware core uses this.

I think I'll need to use this approach.  I think that it still will be prudent
to call device_initialize() before dev_set_uevent_suppress(), though.

I'll post a new series including this later today.

> Hm, it uses this to create some sysfs files and then tell userspace about
> them, even though it uses device_add(), that's "odd".

Well, it seems to have the same problem as I do (described above).
 
> Either way should be fine, you can run 'udevadm monitor' as root to
> watch the sysfs events be sent from the kernel to make sure you have it
> all working properly.

Unfortunately, core ACPI device objects are created way too early for user
space to be useful and I don't have any systems with ACPI-based hotplug around
here ...

Thanks,
Rafael


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Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.
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