lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:31:10 -0800
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@...hat.com>,
	"Myklebust, Trond" <Trond.Myklebust@...app.com>,
	Mandeep Singh Baines <msb@...omium.org>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@...onical.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: LOCKDEP: 3.9-rc1: mount.nfs/4272 still has locks held!

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> With syscall paths out of the way, the surface is reduced a lot.

So the issue is syscalls that don't react to signals, and that can
potentially wait a long time.

Like NFS with a network hickup. Which is not at all unlikely. Think
wireless network, somebody trying to get on a network share, things
not working, and closing the damn lid because you give up.

So I do agree that we probably have *too* many of the stupid "let's
check if we can freeze", and I suspect that the NFS code should get
rid of the "freezable_schedule()" that is causing this warning
(because I also agree that you should *not* freeze while holding
locks, because it really can cause deadlocks), but I do suspect that
network filesystems do need to have a few places where they check for
freezing on their own... Exactly because freezing isn't *quite* like a
signal.

                 Linus
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ