lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Wed, 3 Apr 2013 11:53:24 -0500
From:	Jacob Shin <jacob.shin@....com>
To:	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>, Thomas Renninger <trenn@...e.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>, <cpufreq@...r.kernel.org>,
	<linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 2/2] cpufreq: AMD "frequency sensitivity feedback"
 powersave bias for ondemand governor

On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 11:01:24PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 10:51:51PM +0200, Thomas Renninger wrote:
> > powersave_bias is undocumented in Documentation/cpu-freq/...
> > I guess its use-case is for people who want to get some percent more
> > power savings out of their laptop and do not care of the one or other
> > percent performance.
> > In fact I would like to get rid of this extra code and I expect nobody would 
> > miss it.
> > I might miss a configuration tool where someone went through the code,
> > documented things and allows users to set powersave_bias values through
> > some /etc/* config files.
> > Yep, if you want anyone to make use of this, it should better get
> > embedded in more general, at least general ondemand code.
> 
> Yeah, it all sounds like we want to enable this by default on systems
> which support it. Maybe with an off-switch for people who want plain
> ondemand decisions.
> 
> The remaining systems with ripped out powersave_bias would get plain
> ondemand governor decisions. Provided, of course, nobody uses
> powersave_bias and the functionality doesn't make any sense anyway.

Rafael, any thoughts on removing powersave_bias altogether ?

If we remove it, then is it acceptable to add an alternate callback/
handler registration to ondemand governor to account for hardware
feedback ?

Or, if we don't want to remove powersave_bias,

Then Thomas, Boris, would it be acceptable if enable the frequency
feedback feature by default with a sane powersave_bias tunable value ?
And also add proper documentation for both vanila powersave_bias and
powersave_bias with AMD frequency sensitivity loaded to
Documentation/cpu-freq/ondemand ?

> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Regards/Gruss,
>     Boris.
> 
> Sent from a fat crate under my desk. Formatting is fine.
> --
> 

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ