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Date:	Tue, 7 May 2013 19:18:55 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>
Cc:	Feng Tang <feng.tang@...el.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [GIT PULL] timer changes for v3.10


* John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org> wrote:

> On 05/06/2013 11:53 PM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >* Feng Tang <feng.tang@...el.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>is even worse than that. Machine can stay is s2ram for weeks (for a
> >>>lot more if it is desktop and you do s2ram for powersaving). Also
> >>>temperature of CPU varies a lot between active and s2ram states. Is
> >>>TSC good enough?
> >>Yes, I think it is relatively precise. Per our test, system time backed
> >>by the S3 non stop TSC only has 1 second drift after 4 days running
> >>(with mixed running and S3 states). And before using this feature, we've
> >>seen many time drift problems due to the RTC HW or system FW with our
> >>platforms.
> >Nice result ...
> >
> >Is that with NTP running?
> >
> > Without NTP, the TSC fast-calibration on bootup is not (expected to 
> > be) nearly as precise as the 1:345600 precision you've measured.
> 
> We also do refined calibration now on the TSC asynchronously over a 
> period of seconds at boot up that gives us much better accuracy then the 
> fast calibration. This helps provide much more consistent boot-to-boot 
> TSC frequencies.

Indeed, I just checked from the logs of a system booting newer kernels how 
well it works in practice, and it's about 10 ppm or better, which is much 
better than the ~1000 ppm calibration inaccuracy I remembered.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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